[bookshare-discuss] Re: FW: Gutenberg Books

  • From: Karen Lewellen <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 08:35:45 -0400 (EDT)

Hi,
coming in mid way, but I cannot imagine any logical reason for bookshare to mirror the excelente work of Project Gutenberg. simply send those who need it to the site, their public domain material is better quality anyway, features a far more extensive collection, and if memory serves can be had in html.
Why duplicate something that does not serve  Bookshare in any case?
Karen

On Sun, 2 Sep 2007, Grandma Cindy wrote:

Yes, if PG books can be read in Braille or Daisy.
Otherwise, maybe they should be in our collection.

Anyway, if I can find the book request that caused me
to ask Lisa about it a while ago I'll mention here
that it is available on PG. Maybe I did--can't
remember--senior moment. smile

Cindy

--- Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I don't understand why we should use Bookshare
resources to house books from
PG when those same books can be had from PG's site.
PG doesn't charge for
their books since they are in the public domain.

Wouldn't it be more effective to point folks who
want those books to go to
the PG site?  That way they would have access to
Bookshare and also to PG
resources.

Just my 2 cents worth.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Lisa
Friendly" <lisaf@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 7:54 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: FW: Gutenberg Books


I agree with Jim about not doing wholesale taking,
but
if someone wants an old book that isn't otherwhere
available and is from there, we could take it. I
validated somethibng on bookshare--don't know
where
the submission came from, but the only place I
could
find a book to compare was PG--it was Prince of
Sknners.

I don't remember what the request was--I'll check
our
wish list and see if I can find it and resend it
to
you, Lisa.

Cindy


--- Lisa Friendly <lisaf@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Resending

------ Forwarded Message
From: <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 14:57:23 -0700
To: Lisa Friendly <LisaF@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
<bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
<"bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx">
Conversation: Gutenberg Books
Subject: Gutenberg Books

I think we¹d be willing to loosen our limitations
on
digital book
acceptances when it comes to public domain
Gutenberg
books.  Because they
are public domain, nobody is breaking any rules
submitting them to
Bookshare.org.  And, the Gutenberg team can be
relied upon when they decide
something is public domain (the question is
complex
and we have to be
careful).  They are very supportive of our work,
and
we didn¹t license the
books from them, we just did them the courtesy of
touching base before using
them.  We¹re not really competitors: they do a
great
job on public domain,
and as Lisa notes, we¹re working on copyrighted
material almost exclusively
(which Gutenberg generally can¹t).  So, we
complement each other


We just haven¹t allocated the effort to convert
more
Gutenberg books since
our original launch five years ago. We¹ve not
gotten
a lot of requests for
them.  Another disadvantage is that the Gutenberg
books are generally
unformatted ASCII text.  When we did the big
import,
we just inserted page
breaks every 60 lines or so.    If it¹s of big
interest to our users, we¹d
probably do another big import.  But, it would
flood
the new book listing
with a lot of boring books!


Jim


From: Lisa Friendly
Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 12:59 PM
To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;
"bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";
Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [bookshare-discuss] Re: OT:
September's
fund-raiser

Jim will want to comment further on this, but I
believe the thinking here is
that if the books are available already on
Gutenberg
then our limited
resources are better spent getting different
books
into the Bookshare
collection.

Lisa



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