[bookshare-discuss] Re: Another look at recorded books

  • From: "Patti Johnson" <razz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 16:53:55 -0400

    I hook up my Braille Lite ml20 to the computer and use it as a Braille
display.  It is neat to do that.
Patti
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "J.M." <inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 4:46 PM
Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Another look at recorded books


> Hi, Jana. I've never used a braille display with my PC. I have a serial
port
> on the PC, but like I said, not the laptop. I've always wanted to hook up
> the Braille Lite and use it as a braille display, and with the M40, they
> make it easy. I just haven't done it. Take care.
> Julie Morales
> Email and Windows/MSN Messenger:
> inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> When God puts a tear in your eye, it is because He wants to put a rainbow
in
> your heart.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jana Jackson" <jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 3:51 PM
> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Another look at recorded books
>
>
> Hi, Julie!  I am the same way.  I don't have a hearing impairment, but for
> some reason, I've always preferred reading Braille.  Thanks to Web Braille
> and Bookshare, I always have more than enough reading material! <Smile>
> I've heard that Freedom Scientific is increasing Braille support for a
> future release, to the point that it will be possible to use the PC with
> Braille only if desired.  I'm anxious to try it out!
>
> Jana
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "J.M." <inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 8:44 PM
> Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Another look at recorded books
>
>
> > Hi, Jim. Yay! Another person who feels as strongly about braille as I
do!
> I
> > have a whole stack of hardcopy braille books sitting over here to read
and
> > enjoy every minute of it. I also have a Braille Lite, and I'm actually
the
> > opposite of Shelly. I use the speech extremely rarely and use the
braille
> > most of the time. The only way I know of connecting it to a computer,
> > though, is through a serial port, and my laptop doesn't come with one.
It
> > appears they're fazing them out, but oh, well. I still use my braille
lite
> > all the time in reading Bookshare books and still read hardcopy braille,
> > too. Take care.
> > Julie Morales
> > Email and Windows/MSN Messenger:
> > inlovewithchrist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > When God puts a tear in your eye, it is because He wants to put a
rainbow
> in
> > your heart.
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Jim Denham" <jdenham@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2004 6:16 AM
> > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Another look at recorded books
> >
> >
> > I guess, in my mind, recorded books are the same as books read with
> > synthetic speech.  Yes, it is possible to examine electronic text using
> > synthetic speech, but how many of us actually do this when reading a
long
> > novel.  I do consider both recorded books and electronic books reading
> > because it is gaining access to information.  However, with that being
> said,
> > I am a very strong advocate for any totally blind person, especially
> > students, learning Braille.  Yes, reading with Braille may be slower as
> > compared to reading with the ears, but you pick up things like spelling
> and
> > proper punctuation that you just don't get when listening to either a
> > recording or synthetic voice.  Whenever the parent of a blind student
asks
> > me why their student needs to learn Braille when all they will ever need
> is
> > on tape or in electronic format, I have a standard response.  I tell
them
> > that their are no talking elevator buttons or restroom signs and being
> able
> > to access these two types of information is critical if a visually
> impaired
> > individual wants to live independently.
> > Shelly, I don't want to pick on you and I apologize in advance if I come
> > across that way, but for people on list who are like you, have access to
> > refreshable Braille but only use it occasionally, may I suggest the
> > following.  Find a relatively short book and read it using only Braille.
> > Yes, if your Braille skills are slow, this may take a while, but the
only
> > way you will get faster is by practice.  I think that you will find that
> > reading with refreshable Braille is a really rewarding experience as you
> > will pick up so much more from the book.  Not saying you can never read
a
> > book with speech again, because we all do this.  But, once in a while,
> pick
> > up that refreshable Braille display (Or God forbid a hard copy Braille
> book)
> > and read it cover to cover in Braille.  I think you will be glad you
did.
> > I'll get off my soap box now.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cindy Lou Ray [mailto:cindy.l.ray@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 11:35 PM
> > To: bookshare-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bookshare-discuss] Re: Another look at recorded books
> >
> >
> > I don't think how many read the book or whether it is more interesting
> than
> > the movie makes much difference. But I do think that if someone finds
> > "reading" the book with recording easier than seeing with the eyes, then
> you
> > don't want to discount what they are doing. I do think that people who
> read
> > from tape and refuse to learn alternative techniques like braille,
unless,
> > of course, there are circumstances which make this necessary, are at
least
> > shortchanging themselves. Also, if listening to a recorded book is not
> > reading, then is listening to one with computer speech not reading
either?
> >
> > I think these are rather interesting philosophical questions kind of
like
> if
> > a tree falls in the forest and there is no one there to hear it does it
> > still make a sound? Oh, dear, I should get the laundry taken care of and
> get
> > off of these questions.
> >
> > Sorry for all this.
> > Cindy
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