I for one would love to see more postings about "common" birds and where
you found them. What is common in Bandon, isn't common in Coquille, 25
minutes or so away. The bonus of covid-19 was more people were posting
where stuff was, which gives me and my husband an idea as to where we're
taking a short drive(Thanks Tim R for the Herring run head's up). Also
helpful are details about an area - neighbor at such and such a house
doesn't like birders, whereas the one at X doesn't mind. I tend to err on
the ultra cautious side when I'm birding and have missed many a rare bird
not wanting to upset the locals, which comes from living among many really
paranoid folks here in rural coos. Was riding my horse on the logging
trails and found myself on Gateway rd, and every house had a warning,
trespassers will be shot on sight. Even though the UPS guy assured me it
wasn't a private rd, I high-tailed it out of there and didn't go back. I
think some of those details, as well as good directions, have been left
off because of the criticism that it isn't bird related. It took me 12
tries and 2 years to catch the burrowing owl at Bandon dunes, for example.
I"m still not sure how to get to some of the areas in our county that
people refer to. Yes, I can check the map on someone's ebird(if its a rare
bird - I haven't figured out how to check someone else's ebird) but I never
know if someone has been accurate or are keeping a few details back to
protect the bird from too much activity... My 2c.
On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 2:03 PM Teresa Hertzel <teresa.hertzel@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Yes, I think we all agree that birding should be a safe activity for all,
people should never be shamed or insulted, we should be able to discuss
conservation issues related to birding, threats should not be tolerated,
newbie birders should feel welcome, no one should intimidate anyone else,
but the question is HOW do we do this? I am keeping a list of ideas
generated by this discussion, and maybe when we have expressed ourselves to
exhaustion, I'll use that list to generate a form for all OBOL-ers to give
their input. For example, do you support opening OBOL up to other topics
besides birds (example: conservation, safety, etc.).
On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 3:42 PM <jmeredit@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I used to send bird lists weekly to OBOL but not any more. I got plenty
of negative comments about posting common birds on a list every week, or
why did I list participant names etc. I always thought new birders asked
great questions and I liked to get their names on the list.
I really appreciate reading about bird arrivals and departures statewide,
changes in range, habitat changes statewide etc. It can be about learning,
not just chasing rare birds. To me, those are all bird related and
appropriate. I would dislike OBOL being only for rare bird reports. I do
agree about conservation issues being more and more important but how do we
keep politics out of it?
So good to hear the many voices on this. So glad we have Boo. Judy,
jmeredit@xxxxxxxxxxx
On 2021-02-25 21:21, Joel Geier wrote:
To draw a finer point here:
... about the scope and purpose of OBOL. What is it? It was designed tobe about birds in Oregon.
My understanding is that OBOL originally grew out of an informal e-mail
chain that was formed to share state-level rare-bird-alerts, with a
Slaty-backed Gull as one particularly formative example. So if we go by the
"founding fathers' original intent," it should only be about very rare
birds.
In the early years (around 1999 or 2000 when I was a relative newbie on
the list) there was at least one individual who took that idea seriously
enough to send threatening anonymous postcards to at least three of us. One
woman received a card saying, "Shut up, you talk too much!" The card that
showed up in my mailbox told me to stop posting about commonbirds. Another
woman got a card with a threat to drive to her house and kill her pet geese
if she ever mentioned them on OBOL again.
However, despite such opinions, OBOL quickly became a place for people to
talk about non-rare birds and topics more peripheral to birding. By the
time I joined, OBOL was already being used for coordination of the Oregon
Breeding Bird Atlas, which led to many discussions about distribution of
species as common as Spotted Towhees, and also personal experiences of
birders who volunteered on that project.
Birders also used it to discuss encounters with hostile residents. One
particularly memorable discussion in early 2001 concerned a
"pizza-box-tossing cul-de-sac resident" who vented his unhappiness at
birders who were flocking to a Summer Tanager in Beaverton, which led to a
broader discussion/argument about the rights of private residents to
control access to public rights-of-way. Impacts vs. benefits of ranching
and grass-seed farming were also frequent topics in those years.
Some prominent birders used OBOL as a soapbox to fault the EPA for
limiting manure seepage into Tillamook Bay, on the grounds that this was
detrimental to shore-birding opportunities. ODFW was criticized for letting
"scrapes" become vegetated. Even the OBA board (then called OFO) was a
regular target of criticism. One very well-known birder was fond of
discussing the culinary possibilities for waterfowl and other wild fauna,
often provoking a reaction from vegetarians on the list. Another once
promoted an unsuccessful campaign for birders to buy the whole town of
Fields when it was up for sale.
There have always been a few voices who objected to these more
wide-ranging topics, but -- at least since 1998 -- it would be hard to
argue that discussions were strictly confined to just birds in Oregon.
--
Joel Geier
Camp Adair area north of Corvallis
