I laughed. I think that’s what she meant was funny (Parler).
Mary
On Feb 25, 2021, at 8:55 AM, jmeredit@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Clever and funny, "go to Parler instead" ! Maybe that was what she meant!
Judy Meredith
On 2021-02-25 16:49, Margaret Stephens wrote:
I don't understand what you found funny....
From: boo-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <boo-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of
Teresa Hertzel <teresa.hertzel@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 8:22 AM
To: Margaret Stephens <mlstep@xxxxxxx>
Cc: BOO List <boo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [boo] Re: Discussion
Margaret, you are too funny. Thank you for a good laugh! It has been
suggested a few times now that we post the guidelines once a month, and my
first instinct is that once it gets into a rhythm of appearing on the 1st of
each month, people would no longer "see it."
But I have an idea, based on having been in a Catholic school for 1st grade.
The day would open with the teacher picking a random child and saying, "Joe,
the 3rd commandment!" Then poor Joe would have to stand by his desk and
recite the 3rd commandment. The following day, she would pick another child
and another commandment. In this way, you can bet we all learned our
commandments quickly and thoroughly. How about if I pick ONE guideline to
highlight each month and post it?
On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 10:13 AM Margaret Stephens <mlstep@xxxxxxx
<mailto:mlstep@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
First, the OBOL list is somewhat better than it used to be, when neophyte
birders could get their heads bitten off for posting innocent questions or
comments that were then sneered at by the "elite". I certainly have been,
hesitant to post because of this. Thank you to vigilant moderators!!
On a related note, about birding or being alone in nature (or anywhere) as a
female: I don't think that men, especially white men, can fully understand
the fear that marginalized community members, including BIPOC, LGBTQIA
people, and women, generally experience being alone, and then seeing a male
stranger nearby. Will they attack because they see someone vulnerable who
can be taken advantage of violently, will they attack because they see
someone that doesn't fit their idea of what that person should look like,
will they attack because they think their color doesn't belong? This is
REAL. As a female, when I see a lone man, or a group of men or males, and I
am alone, the adrenaline shoots up and I am on guard and will generally go
out of my way to avoid interaction; I am sure this is true for others that
are targeted; unfortunately, this limits the enjoyment and experience of
solitude in natural areas. White men probably do not have to think of
this. Not picking on white men, but privilege comes with being born that
way, generally. And look at the perpetrators of most violence....for
example, the Capitol mob on January 6. Therefore, there is a duty for the
privileged to work on any lack of awareness on their part; which involves,
first: LISTENING and self-education and knowing when to at least shut up.
Do you think the OBOL guidelines need to be changed? It should be changed
so that moderators can post guidelines and reminders of the ethics of this
list and birding in general. See below.
Do you think the Board violated their own policies by posting a statement
about violence against women on the birding listserv? - No. Moderators need
to moderate.
How should OBOL handle people who are perceived as bullying others? Warn
them once, and if it occurs again, ban them permanently. Maybe they can go
on Parler instead.
How can OBOL be more friendly and welcoming? - Moderators could post a
statement on the listserv at the beginning of each month that has reminders
for respectful discussion, states the consequences if posts violate the
guidelines, states the basic ethics of birding, and includes the assertion
that birding should be actively inclusive and safe for all (?) and that
birders have a responsibility to help make nature study inclusive. State
that this post is a moderator post that is not open for discussion, and
delete any posts in reply.
OBA has a few hundred members, I think it's right around 300, but I don't
have the exact number. OBOL has almost 2,000, so the vast majority are not
OBA members. Do you think OBOL should be broken off from OBA and no longer
be under their umbrella? Don't know about this.
From: boo-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:boo-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<boo-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:boo-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> on behalf of
Teresa Hertzel <teresa.hertzel@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:teresa.hertzel@xxxxxxxxx>>
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 4:01 AM
To: BOO List <boo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:boo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: [boo] Discussion
BOOers,
Here are some questions for you, although you certainly don't have to stick
to these topics.
Do you think the OBOL guidelines need to be changed?
Do you think the Board violated their own policies by posting a statement
about violence against women on the birding listserv?
How should OBOL handle people who are perceived as bullying others?
How can OBOL be more friendly and welcoming?
OBA has a few hundred members, I think it's right around 300, but I don't
have the exact number. OBOL has almost 2,000, so the vast majority are not
OBA members. Do you think OBOL should be broken off from OBA and no longer
be under their umbrella?
Treesa
