traditional religion and the church are paternalistic.
Chuck
From: joe harcz Comcast
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 2:18 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Why Ted Cruz Is Unfit to Be President
Michael is a yes as we are so paternalistic. Lucifer is up for grabs.
Now though are human persecptions however. And even the Bible itself says
angels including fallen ones aren't human, but spiritual beings. They don't
have gender, or at least there aren't specific genitalia referance in the Bible.
Shoot that also goes to God Himself. The only reason they use masculine
pronouns for these non-human beings is because the Jews and indeed all of those
societies were so damned paternalistic and thus to them of course God was a He.
Ditto for the angels.
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Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 1:04 AM
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they have always been portrayed as male.
Chuck
From: R. E. Driscoll Sr
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 9:58 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Why Ted Cruz Is Unfit to Be President
Joe:
Would I be incorrect to assume that 'Michael and Lucifer' were 'male' angels?
R. E. (Dick) Driscoll, Sr.
On 2/19/2016 11:06 AM, joe harcz Comcast wrote:
Grins....But seriously the term "sodomite" came directly from Sodom in this
very story of Lot in the book of Genesis.
Of course, the reader must assume the angels were male, but that isn't
clearly defined.
I didn't know angels had gender being spiritual beings. But, what the
heck....the implication was clear
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now as a gay man you might get me in to church talking about the male
angels.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: joe harcz Comcast
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 3:35 AM
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Well in the story of Lot the angels came for a visit. The residents of
Sodom
wanted to know them. Lot refused instead offerring his virgin daughters
to
the crowd. But the fervent Sodomites wanted to know those angels instead.
So
God blew the whole place up.
Though he let Lot and his daughters escap. Lot's wife was another issue.
After awhile Lots daughters got horny. So they got Lot drunk in a cave
and
had their way with the old fart. One got pregnant and begat a boy child
called Moab. Moab became a leader and there is even a city in Utah named
after him.
So the moral of this story is tthat men should not attempt to fuck
angels,
especially if they are male angels, though the Bible isn't precisely
clear
on the Angel's gender. Nonetheless it's ok to offer your daughters to an
angry mob, because after all women are of know significance.
And it's apparently ok to engage in incest in the eyes of God as He
didn't
mess with Lot or his daughters after the cave event.
I mean he knew them in the Biblical sense.
Now, see isn't the Bible fun?
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now if you were a preacher how could you work this in to a sermon at
church?
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: joe harcz Comcast
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 4:33 PM
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How about incest like in the story of Lot?
Grin...
Lots of sex and violence in the old testament for sure.
Some of it was actually based upon real events and battles too.
Say did we all read the one about David and Saul?
Saul fearing David's growing popularity and in a fit of jealosy decided
to
put him in a dangerous position. Heofferred David his daughter, a royal
princess as a prize if David brought back the foreskins of 1000
Philistines.
(BTW they are modern day Palestinians people of Phoenician extraction
but I
digress.)
David answerred the challenge and literally doubled down bringing back
200
foreskins of the "enemy". Ouch!!
And that is why David is known to some as a prick! Sorry I couldn't
help
myself.
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well if the Bible could be taught in school strictly from a literary
or historical perspective like Shakespeare is taught than it would be fine. and
that means the unedited version of the Bible including the sex adultery and
everything else.
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Abby Vincent
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 4:07 PM
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Why Ted Cruz Is Unfit to Be President
This is another reason why the Bible should be taught in school. The
Republicans often distort what it actually says. Most notably, Jesus
never
weighed in on abortion or homosexuality. Besides we wouldn't want
the kids
to think Bernie Sanders said "It's easier for a camel to go through
the eye
of a needle than it is for a rich man to get into heaven".
Abby
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Vieni
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 2:17 PM
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Why Ted Cruz Is Unfit to Be President
Why Ted Cruz Is Unfit to Be President
Tuesday, 02 February 2016 00:00 By The Daily Take Team, The Thom
Hartmann
Program | Op-Ed Ted Cruz isn't just winning the support of religious
extremists; he's celebrating their support, and in some cases, hiring
them
to work for his campaign. (Photo: CJ Hanevy / Shutterstock.com) One
of the
most disturbing developments of the 2016 Republican race for
president has
been Donald Trump's popularity among the most racist elements in US
society.
The New Yorker, for example, had lengthy piece over the summer
detailing the
excitement he has generated in the neo-Nazi movement.
But here's the thing: Trump isn't the only guy with dangerous
supporters.
The media don't talk about it as much, but Ted Cruz - Trump's closest
competitor for GOP front-runner status - has also won the backing of
some
downright terrifying people. Take, for example, anti-choice activist
Troy
Newman, who the Cruz campaign just tapped to head up "pro-lifers for
Cruz."
As the head of the radical male supremacist group Operation Rescue,
Newman
straddles the very thin line between "activism" and domestic
terrorism - and
I mean really straddles it. His organization harasses abortion
providers and
their patients, and some of its members have been involved in plots
to blow
up women's health clinics. Newman himself has called for the murder
of
abortion doctors, said AIDS is a warning from God and believes that
drought
is God's revenge for abortion.
See more news and opinion from Thom Hartmann at Truthout here.
Seems like a great guy, huh? Well, he's just the tip of the iceberg
when it
comes to Ted Cruz's supporters.
There's also Dick Black, who the Cruz campaign has appointed as the
co-chair
of its Virginia campaign. In addition to advocating for the total
criminalization of homosexuality, Black is also a rape truther. Back
when he
was a Virginia state delegate, Black openly questioned the existence
of
marital rape, something one of his opponents hammered him on in a
campaign
ad.
So much for family values, huh?
Cynthia Dunbar, Black's fellow co-chair of the Ted Cruz campaign in
Virginia, isn't much better. She's compared women having reproductive
rights
to the Holocaust, fought to make far-right Christianity part of the
public
school curriculum and believes that elected officials should have to
pass a
"biblical litmus test." She also says that politicians "don't have
the
freedom to make any laws if they are contrary to what God has said in
his
Holy Scripture."
Swap out the words "Holy Scripture" for "Qu'ran" and that speech
could have
been made by Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, the head of ISIS.
Another Ted Cruz supporter, Iowa conservative and head of The Family
Leader,
Bob Vander Plaats, also says the US should be a Saudi Arabia-style
theocracy. Here he is just a couple of years ago talking about why
our
government should be based on "Godly principles" - i.e. far-right
evangelical Christianity.
As unsettling as that kind of talk is, it's nothing compared to what
Colorado pastor Kevin Swanson, another big-time Ted Cruz supporter,
said
about homosexuality this summer: that it was worthy of the death
penalty.
Amazingly, it gets even worse than that.
Ted Cruz supporter and Texas preacher Mike Bickle believes that Jews
should
be forcibly converted to Christianity and says that if they refuse to
do so,
God will send a "hunter" like "Adolf Hitler" to get them to change
their
minds.
Now, it'd be one thing if Mike Bickle was just some random guy with
bigoted
views who just happens to support Ted Cruz, but he's not, or at least
not
according to the Cruz campaign.
When Bickle announced last week that he was endorsing Ted Cruz for
president, the Cruz campaign published a statement on its official
website
saying in big bold letters, "CRUZ FOR PRESIDENT ANNOUNCES ENDORSEMENT
OF
MIKE BICKLE."
There's an old saying that says you are the company you keep, and if
Ted
Cruz is the company he keeps, that's downright terrifying.
He's just not winning the support of people like Mike Bickle and Dick
Black;
he's celebrating their support, and in some cases, hiring them to
work for
his campaign.
Of course, there's always the case that this is just one big cynical
ploy to
win the Evangelical vote, but even if it is, it says a lot about Ted
Cruz as
a person and as a leader that he'd willingly associate himself with
people
who are pretty much the US version of ISIS.
This is one of the biggest stories of the 2016 race for president,
but the
really disturbing thing is that the media almost completely ignore
it.
Turn on CNN or any of the other major networks and you're more likely
to
hear about poll numbers than the fact that the potential Republican
nominee
for president has been endorsed by a guy who thinks Hitler was sent
by God.
It's almost like the media think it's acceptable that someone running
for
president likes to pal around with Christian extremists and
theocrats.
Well, it's not acceptable; it's a direct threat to our democracy,
which is
why it's time for the media to start taking Cruz and his extremist
endorsements seriously. Based on everything we've seen up to this
point, we
have every reason to believe that a Ted Cruz presidency could mean
the start
of a Saudi Arabia-style theocracy right here in the US. The media
should
function as the fourth estate and wake the American people up to this
before
it's too late.
This article was first published on Truthout and any reprint or
reproduction
on any other website must acknowledge Truthout as the original site
of
publication.
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he's celebrating their support, and in some cases, hiring them to
work for
his campaign. (Photo: CJ Hanevy / Shutterstock.com)
. One of the most disturbing developments of the 2016 Republican race
for president has been Donald Trump's popularity among the most
racist
elements in US society. The New Yorker, for example, had lengthy
piece over
the summer detailing the excitement he has generated in the neo-Nazi
movement. But here's the thing: Trump isn't the only guy with
dangerous
supporters.
The media don't talk about it as much, but Ted Cruz - Trump's closest
competitor for GOP front-runner status - has also won the backing of
some
downright terrifying people. Take, for example, anti-choice activist
Troy
Newman, who the Cruz campaign just tapped to head up "pro-lifers for
Cruz."
As the head of the radical male supremacist group Operation Rescue,
Newman
straddles the very thin line between "activism" and domestic
terrorism - and
I mean really straddles it. His organization harasses abortion
providers and
their patients, and some of its members have been involved in plots
to blow
up women's health clinics. Newman himself has called for the murder
of
abortion doctors, said AIDS is a warning from God and believes that
drought
is God's revenge for abortion.
See more news and opinion from Thom Hartmann at Truthout here.
Seems like a great guy, huh? Well, he's just the tip of the iceberg
when it
comes to Ted Cruz's supporters.
There's also Dick Black, who the Cruz campaign has appointed as the
co-chair
of its Virginia campaign. In addition to advocating for the total
criminalization of homosexuality, Black is also a rape truther. Back
when he
was a Virginia state delegate, Black openly questioned the existence
of
marital rape, something one of his opponents hammered him on in a
campaign
ad.
So much for family values, huh?
Cynthia Dunbar, Black's fellow co-chair of the Ted Cruz campaign in
Virginia, isn't much better. She's compared women having reproductive
rights
to the Holocaust, fought to make far-right Christianity part of the
public
school curriculum and believes that elected officials should have to
pass a
"biblical litmus test." She also says that politicians "don't have
the
freedom to make any laws if they are contrary to what God has said in
his
Holy Scripture."
Swap out the words "Holy Scripture" for "Qu'ran" and that speech
could have
been made by Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, the head of ISIS.
Another Ted Cruz supporter, Iowa conservative and head of The Family
Leader,
Bob Vander Plaats, also says the US should be a Saudi Arabia-style
theocracy. Here he is just a couple of years ago talking about why
our
government should be based on "Godly principles" - i.e. far-right
evangelical Christianity.
As unsettling as that kind of talk is, it's nothing compared to what
Colorado pastor Kevin Swanson, another big-time Ted Cruz supporter,
said
about homosexuality this summer: that it was worthy of the death
penalty.
Amazingly, it gets even worse than that.
Ted Cruz supporter and Texas preacher Mike Bickle believes that Jews
should
be forcibly converted to Christianity and says that if they refuse to
do so,
God will send a "hunter" like "Adolf Hitler" to get them to change
their
minds.
Now, it'd be one thing if Mike Bickle was just some random guy with
bigoted
views who just happens to support Ted Cruz, but he's not, or at least
not
according to the Cruz campaign.
When Bickle announced last week that he was endorsing Ted Cruz for
president, the Cruz campaign published a statement on its official
website
saying in big bold letters, "CRUZ FOR PRESIDENT ANNOUNCES ENDORSEMENT
OF
MIKE BICKLE."
There's an old saying that says you are the company you keep, and if
Ted
Cruz is the company he keeps, that's downright terrifying.
He's just not winning the support of people like Mike Bickle and Dick
Black;
he's celebrating their support, and in some cases, hiring them to
work for
his campaign.
Of course, there's always the case that this is just one big cynical
ploy to
win the Evangelical vote, but even if it is, it says a lot about Ted
Cruz as
a person and as a leader that he'd willingly associate himself with
people
who are pretty much the US version of ISIS.
This is one of the biggest stories of the 2016 race for president,
but the
really disturbing thing is that the media almost completely ignore
it.
Turn on CNN or any of the other major networks and you're more likely
to
hear about poll numbers than the fact that the potential Republican
nominee
for president has been endorsed by a guy who thinks Hitler was sent
by God.
It's almost like the media think it's acceptable that someone running
for
president likes to pal around with Christian extremists and
theocrats.
Well, it's not acceptable; it's a direct threat to our democracy,
which is
why it's time for the media to start taking Cruz and his extremist
endorsements seriously. Based on everything we've seen up to this
point, we
have every reason to believe that a Ted Cruz presidency could mean
the start
of a Saudi Arabia-style theocracy right here in the US. The media
should
function as the fourth estate and wake the American people up to this
before
it's too late.
This article was first published on Truthout and any reprint or
reproduction
on any other website must acknowledge Truthout as the original site
of
publication.
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