Yes, in the NYC public schools, it was release time for religious
instruction. The kids left one hour early, I think, one day a week. But the
only children who used that were the Catholic children. I don't think
children should be taught about the bible in school. I think it should be an
elective for high school and college, and it should be comparative religion
which involves philosophy and literature.
Miriam
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Yeah, the School board might have a problem with that. I still say the kids
need to know what the Bible says. After years as a rape hotline counselor,
I know they do need to talk about incest ... and rape ... and dating
violence in school. When I was in school, they had an hour they called
released time. You went to the institution of your parents' choice and
learned all the stories you needed to know. I don't remember any of the
violent stuff.
Abby
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How about incest like in the story of Lot?
Grin...
Lots of sex and violence in the old testament for sure.
Some of it was actually based upon real events and battles too.
Say did we all read the one about David and Saul?
Saul fearing David's growing popularity and in a fit of jealosy decided to
put him in a dangerous position. Heofferred David his daughter, a royal
princess as a prize if David brought back the foreskins of 1000 Philistines.
(BTW they are modern day Palestinians people of Phoenician extraction but I
digress.)
David answerred the challenge and literally doubled down bringing back 200
foreskins of the "enemy". Ouch!!
And that is why David is known to some as a prick! Sorry I couldn't help
myself.
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well if the Bible could be taught in school strictly from a literary or
historical perspective like Shakespeare is taught than it would be fine.
and that means the unedited version of the Bible including the sex
adultery and everything else.
Chuck
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This is another reason why the Bible should be taught in school. The
Republicans often distort what it actually says. Most notably, Jesus
never
weighed in on abortion or homosexuality. Besides we wouldn't want the
kids
to think Bernie Sanders said "It's easier for a camel to go through the
eye
of a needle than it is for a rich man to get into heaven".
Abby
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Why Ted Cruz Is Unfit to Be President
Tuesday, 02 February 2016 00:00 By The Daily Take Team, The Thom Hartmann
Program | Op-Ed Ted Cruz isn't just winning the support of religious
extremists; he's celebrating their support, and in some cases, hiring them
to work for his campaign. (Photo: CJ Hanevy / Shutterstock.com) One of the
most disturbing developments of the 2016 Republican race for president has
been Donald Trump's popularity among the most racist elements in US
society.
The New Yorker, for example, had lengthy piece over the summer detailing
the
excitement he has generated in the neo-Nazi movement.
But here's the thing: Trump isn't the only guy with dangerous supporters.
The media don't talk about it as much, but Ted Cruz - Trump's closest
competitor for GOP front-runner status - has also won the backing of some
downright terrifying people. Take, for example, anti-choice activist Troy
Newman, who the Cruz campaign just tapped to head up "pro-lifers for
Cruz."
As the head of the radical male supremacist group Operation Rescue, Newman
straddles the very thin line between "activism" and domestic terrorism -
and
I mean really straddles it. His organization harasses abortion providers
and
their patients, and some of its members have been involved in plots to
blow
up women's health clinics. Newman himself has called for the murder of
abortion doctors, said AIDS is a warning from God and believes that
drought
is God's revenge for abortion.
See more news and opinion from Thom Hartmann at Truthout here.
Seems like a great guy, huh? Well, he's just the tip of the iceberg when
it
comes to Ted Cruz's supporters.
There's also Dick Black, who the Cruz campaign has appointed as the
co-chair
of its Virginia campaign. In addition to advocating for the total
criminalization of homosexuality, Black is also a rape truther. Back when
he
was a Virginia state delegate, Black openly questioned the existence of
marital rape, something one of his opponents hammered him on in a campaign
ad.
So much for family values, huh?
Cynthia Dunbar, Black's fellow co-chair of the Ted Cruz campaign in
Virginia, isn't much better. She's compared women having reproductive
rights
to the Holocaust, fought to make far-right Christianity part of the public
school curriculum and believes that elected officials should have to pass
a
"biblical litmus test." She also says that politicians "don't have the
freedom to make any laws if they are contrary to what God has said in his
Holy Scripture."
Swap out the words "Holy Scripture" for "Qu'ran" and that speech could
have
been made by Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, the head of ISIS.
Another Ted Cruz supporter, Iowa conservative and head of The Family
Leader,
Bob Vander Plaats, also says the US should be a Saudi Arabia-style
theocracy. Here he is just a couple of years ago talking about why our
government should be based on "Godly principles" - i.e. far-right
evangelical Christianity.
As unsettling as that kind of talk is, it's nothing compared to what
Colorado pastor Kevin Swanson, another big-time Ted Cruz supporter, said
about homosexuality this summer: that it was worthy of the death penalty.
Amazingly, it gets even worse than that.
Ted Cruz supporter and Texas preacher Mike Bickle believes that Jews
should
be forcibly converted to Christianity and says that if they refuse to do
so,
God will send a "hunter" like "Adolf Hitler" to get them to change their
minds.
Now, it'd be one thing if Mike Bickle was just some random guy with
bigoted
views who just happens to support Ted Cruz, but he's not, or at least not
according to the Cruz campaign.
When Bickle announced last week that he was endorsing Ted Cruz for
president, the Cruz campaign published a statement on its official website
saying in big bold letters, "CRUZ FOR PRESIDENT ANNOUNCES ENDORSEMENT OF
MIKE BICKLE."
There's an old saying that says you are the company you keep, and if Ted
Cruz is the company he keeps, that's downright terrifying.
He's just not winning the support of people like Mike Bickle and Dick
Black;
he's celebrating their support, and in some cases, hiring them to work for
his campaign.
Of course, there's always the case that this is just one big cynical ploy
to
win the Evangelical vote, but even if it is, it says a lot about Ted Cruz
as
a person and as a leader that he'd willingly associate himself with people
who are pretty much the US version of ISIS.
This is one of the biggest stories of the 2016 race for president, but the
really disturbing thing is that the media almost completely ignore it.
Turn on CNN or any of the other major networks and you're more likely to
hear about poll numbers than the fact that the potential Republican
nominee
for president has been endorsed by a guy who thinks Hitler was sent by
God.
It's almost like the media think it's acceptable that someone running for
president likes to pal around with Christian extremists and theocrats.
Well, it's not acceptable; it's a direct threat to our democracy, which is
why it's time for the media to start taking Cruz and his extremist
endorsements seriously. Based on everything we've seen up to this point,
we
have every reason to believe that a Ted Cruz presidency could mean the
start
of a Saudi Arabia-style theocracy right here in the US. The media should
function as the fourth estate and wake the American people up to this
before
it's too late.
This article was first published on Truthout and any reprint or
reproduction
on any other website must acknowledge Truthout as the original site of
publication.
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. Ted Cruz isn't just winning the support of religious extremists;
he's celebrating their support, and in some cases, hiring them to work for
his campaign. (Photo: CJ Hanevy / Shutterstock.com)
. One of the most disturbing developments of the 2016 Republican race
for president has been Donald Trump's popularity among the most racist
elements in US society. The New Yorker, for example, had lengthy piece
over
the summer detailing the excitement he has generated in the neo-Nazi
movement. But here's the thing: Trump isn't the only guy with dangerous
supporters.
The media don't talk about it as much, but Ted Cruz - Trump's closest
competitor for GOP front-runner status - has also won the backing of some
downright terrifying people. Take, for example, anti-choice activist Troy
Newman, who the Cruz campaign just tapped to head up "pro-lifers for
Cruz."
As the head of the radical male supremacist group Operation Rescue, Newman
straddles the very thin line between "activism" and domestic terrorism -
and
I mean really straddles it. His organization harasses abortion providers
and
their patients, and some of its members have been involved in plots to
blow
up women's health clinics. Newman himself has called for the murder of
abortion doctors, said AIDS is a warning from God and believes that
drought
is God's revenge for abortion.
See more news and opinion from Thom Hartmann at Truthout here.
Seems like a great guy, huh? Well, he's just the tip of the iceberg when
it
comes to Ted Cruz's supporters.
There's also Dick Black, who the Cruz campaign has appointed as the
co-chair
of its Virginia campaign. In addition to advocating for the total
criminalization of homosexuality, Black is also a rape truther. Back when
he
was a Virginia state delegate, Black openly questioned the existence of
marital rape, something one of his opponents hammered him on in a campaign
ad.
So much for family values, huh?
Cynthia Dunbar, Black's fellow co-chair of the Ted Cruz campaign in
Virginia, isn't much better. She's compared women having reproductive
rights
to the Holocaust, fought to make far-right Christianity part of the public
school curriculum and believes that elected officials should have to pass
a
"biblical litmus test." She also says that politicians "don't have the
freedom to make any laws if they are contrary to what God has said in his
Holy Scripture."
Swap out the words "Holy Scripture" for "Qu'ran" and that speech could
have
been made by Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, the head of ISIS.
Another Ted Cruz supporter, Iowa conservative and head of The Family
Leader,
Bob Vander Plaats, also says the US should be a Saudi Arabia-style
theocracy. Here he is just a couple of years ago talking about why our
government should be based on "Godly principles" - i.e. far-right
evangelical Christianity.
As unsettling as that kind of talk is, it's nothing compared to what
Colorado pastor Kevin Swanson, another big-time Ted Cruz supporter, said
about homosexuality this summer: that it was worthy of the death penalty.
Amazingly, it gets even worse than that.
Ted Cruz supporter and Texas preacher Mike Bickle believes that Jews
should
be forcibly converted to Christianity and says that if they refuse to do
so,
God will send a "hunter" like "Adolf Hitler" to get them to change their
minds.
Now, it'd be one thing if Mike Bickle was just some random guy with
bigoted
views who just happens to support Ted Cruz, but he's not, or at least not
according to the Cruz campaign.
When Bickle announced last week that he was endorsing Ted Cruz for
president, the Cruz campaign published a statement on its official website
saying in big bold letters, "CRUZ FOR PRESIDENT ANNOUNCES ENDORSEMENT OF
MIKE BICKLE."
There's an old saying that says you are the company you keep, and if Ted
Cruz is the company he keeps, that's downright terrifying.
He's just not winning the support of people like Mike Bickle and Dick
Black;
he's celebrating their support, and in some cases, hiring them to work for
his campaign.
Of course, there's always the case that this is just one big cynical ploy
to
win the Evangelical vote, but even if it is, it says a lot about Ted Cruz
as
a person and as a leader that he'd willingly associate himself with people
who are pretty much the US version of ISIS.
This is one of the biggest stories of the 2016 race for president, but the
really disturbing thing is that the media almost completely ignore it.
Turn on CNN or any of the other major networks and you're more likely to
hear about poll numbers than the fact that the potential Republican
nominee
for president has been endorsed by a guy who thinks Hitler was sent by
God.
It's almost like the media think it's acceptable that someone running for
president likes to pal around with Christian extremists and theocrats.
Well, it's not acceptable; it's a direct threat to our democracy, which is
why it's time for the media to start taking Cruz and his extremist
endorsements seriously. Based on everything we've seen up to this point,
we
have every reason to believe that a Ted Cruz presidency could mean the
start
of a Saudi Arabia-style theocracy right here in the US. The media should
function as the fourth estate and wake the American people up to this
before
it's too late.
This article was first published on Truthout and any reprint or
reproduction
on any other website must acknowledge Truthout as the original site of
publication.
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