and he has also addressed Gaza and the West Bank specifically.
and in the bird moment, he did call for no more wars…
On Mar 29, 2016, at 1:56 PM, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Even when Bernie buys into our foreign policy, he is less militaristic than
the other candidates. Even in terms of Israel, he, at least, talks about the
needs of the Palestinian people. And yes, he's an FDR kind of Social
Democrat, not a true Socialist, but he is certainly on a whole different
plane than the other candidates, than any Democratic Party candidate that
we've had for a long, long time, which is why he is being treated as he is.
Miriam
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[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alice Dampman
Humel
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 11:42 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: [blind-democracy] [blind-democracy] Re:
[blind-democracy] Re: [blind-democracy] RE: [blind-democracy] Re:
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No, it’s not the word alone, it’s the way in which it is used. If Trump uses
a plural pronoun, or when he says “folks,” he is most definitely talking not
about “us,” but as, OK, I’ll bite, a king not using the royal we, but rather
handing down dicta to his loyal sheep followers. Like when he said, aren’t
Trump rallies, fun, folks?
Sanders has made it very clear what he means when he uses the first person
plural pronouns, we, us, our…he has explained that we’re all in this
together, that we must seek to unite, not to divide, and so on.
He has also made it very, very clear that the major contributing factor to
the state we’re in is income inequality, the stranglehold Wall Street has on
everything, Citizens United which makes everything connected to how much
money influential people and groups and corporations have to throw around,
and so on. I know that may not be “socialist” or “Marxist” or whatever else
anyone wants to put in that blank, but it is the only step in that direction
any of them has taken. The whole lot of the rest of the candidates are in
the same Wall Street and corporate pockets. So, while I do not look at
Sanders as the big savior, the knight on the white horse who is going to fix
everything, with or without his “us,” I think he deserves a chance, because
he’s not back in down, he’s not engaging in empty platitudes, he’s really
put it on the line over and over again. And, BTW, somebody mentioned the
“yes, we can” chants of the Obama campaigns. That was a “we” used by the
crowd, not by Obama in speaking of what he would do.
Alice
On Mar 29, 2016, at 10:41 AM, Carl Jarvis <carjar82@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It would be presumptuous of me to say, "We" when expressing a
personal
opinion. But Sanders, Clinton and Cruz are speaking for their
Political Partners, and the We they use is meant to be all
inclusive.
If any of them become King or Emperor, it will not be because they
say, "We". It will be because the American Working Class has
allowed
them to seize power. I think that it's funny, seeing folks get all
lathered up over the use of one word or another, as if that shows us
everything about them and their intentions.
The use of words like, "We" or, "I", are not the issue. the threat
of
our Oligarchy becoming overthrown by a Strongman, like Donald Trump.
King Donald. Or perhaps the Second Coming with Lord Ted Cruz
representing God, the Father and His son Jesus Christ and their
silent
partner, the Holy Spirit, rests upon our heads. "We" have the
collective power to change the course of history, if "We" are
willing
to step up and take responsibility for our future. And by the way,
at
least when Cruz says, "We", it's understood just who he means.
But I digress.
The problem is not in the word, "We". The problem is that the
Corporate Capitalist System is not even pretending to serve the
needs
of the Working Class, the majority, the backbone of America. It
doesn't matter who "we" send into that Oval Office, so long as the
Two
Headed Monster holds power, representing its Master, the Ruling
Class.
On our recent trip from Washington, through Oregon and California,
on
our way to Sun City, Arizona, and back again, I heard almost no
Progressive programming. One station carried Thom Hartman. Lots of
preachers calling for Jesus to intervene and lift the heavy burden
from the shoulders of the suffering poor. Lots of sports chatter.
And of course, Mike Savage and Rush Limbaugh wove their hate around
the radio networks. But how are people going to make "Informed"
choices if they have no information upon which to act?
So as much as we want someone we can dump our troubles on, the real
problem is each of us. It's all of us who buy the smoke and mirrors
being pumped into our heads by the Empires Pied Pipers. We point to
our Second Amendment Rights to "bear arms", being threatened by
"creeping socialism".
We cry out against public ownership of our schools and public lands,
claiming that government bungles the management that could be run so
much more efficiently by the Private Sector. We hide behind bolted
doors, fearing the takeover of our cities by Persons of Color, with
their drugs and whores and violence. We are frightened thinking of
the coming invasion by those feared Muslims who have been sneaking
into our Free Land for years, waiting to force us to pray to Allah.
We have become so frightened and mistrusting of one another that we
encourage our CIA and FBI access to our private conversations. The
list is endless. We are cowed by the power of the Ruling Class, and
we don't want to admit it. So we blame anyone and everyone for our
troubles, when the solution is within our own heads. At some point
we
must set aside the Ruling Class and begin the process of educating
our
Working Class, and build a true representative government. But we
need to bring positive energy, rather than fear and negativism.
Can "We" do it? Only if each of us takes responsibility for our own
lives. Then, whether it is, "I" or, "We", the new People's
government
will rise up out of the ashes.
Carl Jarvis
On 3/29/16, Alice Dampman Humel <alicedh@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Right. King Bernie, complete with crown and scepter.
On Mar 27, 2016, at 9:47 PM, Roger Loran Bailey (Redacted
sender
"rogerbailey81" for DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
You very rarely hear the word I from a monarch
either. It is always the
royal we.
On 3/27/2016 7:20 AM, Frank Ventura wrote:
But how many of “we” will be sacrificed on
his way to greatness?
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Humel
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 7:16 AM
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SWP: Workers need to organize
independent of, bosses’ parties
but that has been one of my points…you very
rarely hear the first person
singular pronoun from Bernie, it is always
“we.” So he will not be
marching into the jaws of the dying, corrupt
system alone to be devoured
by it. We will all be marching with him, and
even that system can not
devour us all, gulp, I hope…but we all know
it, led by the 1% is going to
try...
On Mar 27, 2016, at 1:42 AM, Carl Jarvis
<carjar82@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Take heart, Frank.
We did not get into this mess overnight.
Despite the power of the
American Empire, there is an awakening among
rank and file Americans.
But the road to reason is a steep, rock
strewn road. Bernie Sanders
is certainly not our "great white knight",
but he does hold open a few
doors of opportunity to improve our present
life. Still, we cannot
expect to send one man, no matter how well
intentioned he might be,
into the jaws of a dying, corrupt system.
The monster will consume
him, as it always does.
In fact, our Savior is not some bigger than
life hero. Our Savior is
each of us. So, my fellow Savior, hang in
there and keep looking for
those opportunities to spread the light and
the hope for a quiet end
to the Dragon.
Carl Jarvis
On 3/26/16, Frank Ventura
<frank.ventura@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Carl, as I have, perhaps cynically, have
asked much in the past 48 hours
...
how? I'm afraid old chap that I feel
handicapped, emasculated, and
abandoned. Even my own primary vote, that
last piece of empowerment that
I
had appears now to be rejected by someone
who turned their back on me and
my
state. Worse still after reading that
interview with Sanders where even
he
admits to having no specific plan to deal
with the right wing other than
to
call for the public to rush in with some
sort of nondescript revolution
and
save him , indicates that we are all as
emasculated as I feel this
weekend.
Frank
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Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 4:34 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re:
[blind-democracy] SWP: Workers need to
organize independent of, bosses’ parties
Here's more proof, as if we need any, that
the Ruling Class'
propaganda is effective. There can be no
other explanation as to how
working class men and women draw back from
organizing independent labor
unions.
In disasters such as floods, fires, or
tornadoes, we all drop what we're
doing and rush in to lend a hand.
But when we, and our neighbors, are watching
our jobs go overseas, our
dollars purchasing less and our children
being burdened in debt for
their
education, we stand around and say, "there's
nothing we can do about
it."
Well there is. We can declare a National
Disaster and drop what we're
doing
and rush in to help ourselves and others out
of this growing oppression.
Carl Jarvis
On 3/26/16, Roger Loran Bailey
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
http://themilitant.com/2016/8013/801303.html
The Militant (logo)
Vol. 80/No. 13 April 4, 2016
(front page)
SWP: Workers need to organize independent of
bosses’ parties
Militant/Don Mackle
“No capitalist party has solution to world
economic crisis,” Mary
Martin, left, SWP candidate for Washington
governor, told Keith
Fiorino and Ashlynn Kolidakis at Seattle
Sanders rally.
BY SETH GALINSKY
Socialist Workers Party candidates across
the country are joining
protests against police brutality, walking
picket lines with fellow
workers, campaigning door to door, and
engaging in discussions with
workers about the need to organize
independently of the capitalist
class. Those who agree with that perspective
should join the Socialist
Workers Party.
Mary Martin, SWP candidate for governor of
Washington, campaigned with
supporters among thousands of people at a
March 20 rally for Bernie
Sanders in Seattle.
Many of those she spoke with were interested
in her view that working
people need to learn from the example of the
Cuban Revolution and of
the need to take political power out of the
hands of the capitalist
class.
“A lot of what you say is true but I don’t
think the American people
are ready for real socialism,” said Keith
Fiorino, 28, a musician.
“Don’t you think that Sanders is basically
going in the right
direction?”
“None of the capitalist politicians have
solutions to the grinding
effects of the world economic crisis on
working people,” Martin replied.
“The working class is the only force that is
capable of fighting for
our own interests. That’s why we need a
labor party based on the
unions for workers to have an independent
voice.”
Dave, a railroad worker and union member who
didn’t want to give his
last name, said he knows about engineer Tom
Harding, who is facing
frame-up charges for the 2013 oil car train
crash in Lac-Mégantic,
Quebec. “They say he didn’t set enough
brakes, but once the fire crew
cut out the brake lines, the cars were going
to roll,” Dave said. “I
don’t think it was his fault.”
“Workers need to have control of safety on
the job,” said Martin. “We
need to use union power to stand up against
frame-ups of Harding and
others.”
Shavon Hayes, a public transit bus driver
and member of the
Amalgamated Transit Union, was glad to hear
Martin had joined some of
the bus drivers’ informational picket lines
protesting split shifts
and lack of breaks.
In an indication of the interest in the
communist alternative, 15
people bought copies of the Militant, two
subscribed and two got
copies of The Cuban Five Talk About Their
Lives Within the US Working
Class: “It’s the Poor Who Face the Savagery
of the US ‘Justice’
System,” one of several books campaign
supporters are using in
discussing what way forward for working
people.
Sam Manuel, Socialist Workers Party
candidate for U.S. Senate in
Georgia, joined Felicia Thomas, Delisa Davis
and dozens of others at
the Smyrna, Georgia, City Council meeting
March 21 to protest cop
brutality and the promotion of officer
Kenneth Owens to lieutenant.
Owens fatally shot Thomas’ son Nicholas in
the back while the
23-year-old was at work at a tire shop a
year ago. Davis’ brother
Kevin died Dec. 31, 2015, two days after
being shot by a DeKalb County
cop in his apartment after calling 911.
“For Owens to be promoted is like spitting
in my face, rewarding him
for killing my child,” Thomas told Manuel.
“The Socialist Workers campaign in Georgia
and nationally will be a
voice for all those fighting to oppose
killings by cops,” said Manuel.
Supporters of Eleanor García, SWP candidate
for U.S. Senate, joined a
March 19 protest in Bakersfield, California,
against killings by the
police.
“García has been a part of the fight against
police brutality, as well
as standing up against deportations,” SWP
campaign supporter Laura
Garza told the crowd. “She will be
discussing the fights here as she
joins the nurses striking at Kaiser in Los
Angeles, the port truckers
and workers demanding a raise in the minimum
wage. We can strengthen
our fights by joining others standing up.”
California’s Secretary of State informed
García March 17 that she will
be on the ballot for the June primary.
Janice Lynn in Smyrna, Georgia, and Bill
Arth in Bakersfield,
California, contributed to this article.
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