Roger, every now and then, you're proving to me that you're so
pitiable. Apart from the fact that you are not a specialist, your
claim of holding a degree in Biology seems to be counterfeit. You
haven't referenced one reliable nor even unreliable source for these
emptily statements. You've just talked nonsensically. Embryologists,
who are competent in the field, affirm that the description of
conceptus in the Koran which was revealed in the seventh century
perfectly fits with today's medical discoveries. Furthermore, they say
it was absolutely impossible for anyone at that time, no matter where
they lived, to know the minimum of these precise specifications of the
human embryo inside the womb, because microscopes, which are necessary
instruments to observe such tiny objects were not yet invented.
Roger, the fraudulently edified negates these plainly stunning facts.
Further amazingly, he doesn't present the least of evidence for his so
stupid argument. You are an abrupt empiricist. Drink warm milk and
just calm down. I just want you to feel good with yourself. Why do you
insist to be so idiot? Don't worry, I have got good news for you. The
Koran talks about black holes. Allah swans at the beginning of chapter
fifty-three with the star as it falls. This video matters to you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YON6T4v697U This video cites the
mention of black holes in the Koran. How many time am I going to
defeat you so flawlessly? This is enough for Roger the daft. Carl,
comparing me to Trump the scoundrel is utterly intolerable. Your
unpleasant experience with false instance of faith resembles your
current crisis. There is grave antipathy toward faith in general
within western culture and society. Here, the matter is different. I
could go on with referencing scientific signs within the text of the
Glorious Koran. The Koran was revealed at time when human
understanding of the nature of the cosmos and the movement or the
stillness of the heavenly bodies was extremely primitive and obscure.
This is no longer the case, as our knowledge of the universe has
considerably advanced and expounded at the present age. Some of the
theories relating to the commencement of the universe have been
verified as facts, whereas some others are still being explored. The
concept of the expanding universe belongs to the former category and
has been universally accepted by the scientific community as fact.
United States astronomer, Edwin Hubble discovered that as the universe
expands, the speed with which nebulae recede increases with their
distance from the observer. This scientific breakthrough was initially
divulged at almost the quarter of the past century. Nonetheless, the
Koran has recorded this scientific fact fourteen hundred centuries
earlier. Allah says this in the Koran: "And the heaven We constructed
with strength, and indeed, We are its expander." This is the Noble
Koran, chapter fifty-one, verse fourty-seven. Hmm, do you still assume
science as your defender? Each and everyone of you started out as Jew
or Christian. Thence, your journey of abandoning faith gradually
began. Whether you are Atheist or agnostic, both are two different
states of the same phenomenon. If you ask any of those, do you believe
in a supernatural force that controls the universe? He'll just say I
don't know. However, if you ask the same person, do you believe in
God? He'll say no. So, even as they define themselves, they are
demonstratively fallacious. It isn't my prob that you had been struck
with appalling experience regarding religion. My faith urges me to
reutilise my intellectual factor to the sufficient paramount. Hiding
behind science and empty philosophy is no longer protective to any of
you. You're so vulnerable to rational resignation. Now, Roger
allegedly claimed that prophet Muhammad wrote the Koran. I want him to
present me the least of decisive evidence for that. How did Muhammad
who lived at the heart of Arabia in the seventh century learn about
the expanding universe? If prophet Muhammad was educated, where is
your attested witness? All reliable references that are pertained to
study the biography of Muhammad the prophet tell us in an unbroken
consensus, that the man never went to school nor he ever received
scientific training. So, present to us the opposite if you have the
proof of it. I demand scholarly rhetoric rather than haphazard talk.
You may possibly regenerate your tediously sedentary lifestyle with
engaging in such useful activities. This list desperately demands to
be thoroughly disciplined. Well, I'm here to cope with this task. As
my questions are so clear, I want even clearer answers. I may
generously spare some of my precious time to read these nonsensical
notions that are emerging in your intemperately imbecilic heads.
Because my life is meaningful, I have to go now. I have life to live.
I have things to do. I have real people to communicate with. Watch out
for the next crack down on stupidish Atheism, agnosticism or whatever
it might be, damn.
On 2/17/19, Carl Jarvis <carjar82@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Mostafa,
For the record, I do not hate Islam, or Christianity, or Judaism, or
any of the many religions adopted by Man to attempt to explain this
small remote planet in this vast place we call the Universe.
Nor do I hate Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy or Winnie the Poo. As I
grew up and left behind the children's stories, and came to understand
that little Elves did not make toys at the North Pole, I moved on to
interesting stories about Greek and Roman Gods. What a wild and crazy
bunch of super beings those characters were.
As a young man, I embraced Christianity and experienced it first
hand,eventually finding it to be just one more of the fables spread
by Men. And of course the major religions of the World are promoted
and controlled by Men. From the time we Humans were hiding in caves,
or swinging from trees, or roving the land in bands of hunters and
gatherers, the male has dominated through brute strength. But, as Bob
Dylan sings, "The times they are a changing", and women have attained
equal footing with men in their ability to survive and to protect
their families. Yet, we continue to mindlessly worship a God out of
the past. God at the top, then Men, then Women and Children. And
because Men tell us that this was God's Perfect Plan, those who buy
into any of these ancient beliefs are trapped into accepting it
without question.
Religions trap us into accepting the concept that there is a superior
intelligence. We carry this concept over into our own social
structures. We look for a strong, firm, all knowing leader. And what
we get are dictators, kings, and ruthless war lords. Men who
manipulate us for their own greedy desires.
But I understand that I'll never convince you that you are part of the
problem, just as surely as Donald Trump is part of the problem.
If we humans cannot move away from the Pyramid Structure that we
currently believe in, we are doomed. We are living in a Past World
Order that will destroy us.
Carl Jarvis
On 2/17/19, Mostafa Almahdy <mostafa.almahdy@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Well Roger, we could at least agree, that in many religions including
the one I proudly belong to, people ignorantly associate superstitious
notions with genuine religious concepts. The Noble Koran is wholly
inerrable. It contains medicinal information that could have never
been discovered in the seventh century. This is the timeframe during
which the Koran was revealed. Let us have a look at the Koranic
description of an embryological aspect. What are the consecutive
phases of the human embryo development inside the womb? Here is a
quoted English translations of a Koran book called the book of the
believers. Allah says what could be rendered in English as follows:
"And surely we created man from an extract of clay. Then We placed him
as a sperm-drop in a firm lodging. Then We made the sperm-drop into a
clinging clot, and We made the clot into a lump and We made the lump
into bones and We clothed the bones with flesh. We then developed him
into another creation. So blessed is Allah, the best of creators."
This is a brief citation of the Koranic mention of human embryo in the
womb. This is book of the believers numbered the twenty-third in a
regular Koranic index, verses twelve to fourteen. Does the science
today concur with what the Koran mentions? Embryologists said yes. I
urge you to look up a prominent physician who specializes in
Embryology, his name is Keith Moore. He confirms that what the Koran
mentions about the human embryo in the womb is incisively accurate. He
adds, that what the Koran says about the human embryo development
could have not been empirically examined in the seventh century. Many
key facts of what the Koran mentions haven't been empirically unveiled
unless recently. Microscopes initially had been invented in the
seventeenth century. But, they were relatively primitive. Therefore,
significant information haven't been recorded in the field of
Embryology. In earlier years of the twentieth century, microscopes
incredibly ripened and hence, were sufficiently reliable. Haters of
the Koran claim that we, the Muslims, bribed Prof Moore to falsely
praise the Koran. Well, apart from the fact that they haven't
presented the least of evidence to swan into this alleged impeachment,
why would he need to accept money from relatively developing
countries? He resides in Canada and held the chair of Medicine at
Toronto university for many years. So, he is socially prestigious and
financially prosperous. Fair-minded people do not say but what is
true. The man has just learned that the Koran speaks something that is
fully matching with today's scientific advancement. He also admitted,
that what the Koran says here couldn't be rationally interpreted but a
divine revelation. Everything I say here is authenticated and thence ,
could be conveniently checked out. I respectfully urge Roger and
others to tell me, if science could have not discovered what the Koran
says about the human embryo development in the seventh century, how
did Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him come up with this
critical set of information? How did he know? We knew, that prophet
Muhammad was completely illiterate during his entire life. People
couldn't now elude the truth. Well, haters of Islam would still say,
the Koran somewhat got hallucinated in Muhammad's head. I would like
to ask them to present a convincing explanation of this heavily
vacuous statement. So again, Roger, you couldn't hide behind the wall
of science to deny faith. The latter doesn't contravene with modern
scientific development. You have to quick counterfeitly exercising
allegiance to science to justify your hate of religion. Just say,
science may not necessarily contradict with faith related concepts but
I just hate religions. If you say that, I will radically respect you,
even though I'd sternly dissent with you. As someone who has a degree
in Biology, I urge you to spare some of your time to study the
proposition I presented here. I wish I am not encountered with emptily
typical and unnecessary sophistry. I pray that Roger may not meet my
expectations this time. The lecture of Dr Keith Moore on Embryology in
the Koran is available on Youtube. If you need any help with this
research process, please, don't hesitate to contact me.
On 2/16/19, Mostafa <ebob824@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Racism is the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically
superior to members of other races. While the United States is
allegedly said to be the transcendent nation of recognising human
rights, it incessantly aches the intolerable expenditure of racial
disparity. Malcolm X was a civil right leader. At the beginning of his
life, he joined Nation of Islam. It was a racialist movement that
professed and advocated for black people emancipation in the United
States. After he returned from Haj, he disposed the membership of
Nation of Islam. This movement's emergence was a natural consequence.
As black people were relentlessly plagued, a racialist movement
egressed. Because of his darker complexion, he is often referred to as
Malcolm little. Americans are so proud of Abraham Lincoln's decision
to wholly emancipate slaves. While this is ostensibly exulting, it is
inwardly problematic. He delt with the symptom and disposed the
disease. Slavery is the symptom and racial disparity is the disease.
This crucial fact hasn't yet been fathomed in modern America. During
the sixties of the last century, when Eisenhower was president, there
was drinking fountains for only white people. Black people couldn't
have access to them. In spite of unproved claims of racial equality,
African Americans encounter discrimination on virtually a daily basis.
This negative phenomenon is conspicuously notorious in Trump's era.
Donald Trump has exceedingly been uttering direly racialist remarks.
Recently, he fended for a racist ad about migrants caravan. He uttered
xenophobically pertained inputs during many of his ardent rallies.
Donald Trump delivered crude remarks when he called Haiti and African
nations shithole countries during White House bipartisan meeting on
immigration January last year. Consequently, a mass condemnation has
intemperately been ensued. Nevertheless, neither Trump nor his staff
apologised. They just denied the case. Donald Trump is formally
indicted of viciously misleading his own people. I have been told not
to criticise the United States by a senior pastor of Jefferson Baptist
Church. With all respect to this, I am not to be told what to do or
say. I am free to openly speak my mind the manner I deem appropriate.
You are free to consider Donald Trump a fulfillment of biblical
prophecy. Nonetheless, I simultaneously reserve the right to consider
this tremendously preposterous. Isn't that the implicated definition
of free expression in American culture? Before you respond to this
thread, you may first consider the subsequent major factor. I'm not to
be civilly defeated or manipulated. I say this each time I send a mass
post to confirm my firm allegiance to my heritage and identity. If you
respect my upbringing, we certainly would be tight friends. Even if we
radically dissent on critical issues, we could still be decent to each
other. That's my motto: don't hate, educate. Our fate is to integrate.
Nevertheless, there are some people who wish to incessantly denigrate
our heritage and identity. They arrogantly insist to americanise our
character. If we don't defer to them, we are instantly derogated and
demonised. I emphatically despise this superior disposal. The United
States is on the decline in Trump's chaotic age. The currently erupted
conflict over border wall funding is indispensably of America's core
racial crisis. This social defect has been longly neglected. It has
now been plainly brought to the surface. Thence, a national emergency
has been officially declared over border wall funding. Two days prior
to that, Trump arranged a massive rally in El Paso Texas. Therein, he
spoke to his wittingly indoctrinated protagonists. One of his remarks
that was incomparably ludicrous when he said in inquisitive fashion,
"Is there anyplace that's more fund to be than a Trump rally?". That's
absolutely absurd. I tell southern evangelists who're mainly receiving
this post, you have to wake up and smell the coffee. Your hellion
chief's alleged patriotism is at stake. Your whitened temperament has
paved the damnable path for broadly racialist emersion across the
nation. The conservative camp has been conspicuously notorious of
barefacedly colluding with pro Zionist entities. At the buckle of the
Bible Belt, typical evangelists denounce Islam out of grave malice.
But why? Well, first off, Islam resembles a major threat to Church
eminence and precedence. Whenever you ask pastors about the explicit
statement where Jesus says I'm God worship me or where he says, I'm
going to die for your sins, they naturally start to palter. Islam has
the ever plainly sentiment of pure monotheism and sincere submission
to the Creator glory be to Him. Haters of Islam primarily rely on
misconceptions and preconceived notions to relentlessly defame Islam.
One of the easiest things for them to say, Islam isn't a religion of
peace. Well, neither it's a religion of war. War and peace are two
separate situations that Islam has crystal clear jural tenets for. I
have been repeatedly demanding pastors to courageously interact with
me. Well unfortunately, they never return my proposal for one obvious
reason. They intensely reject the truth. So, to give you a brief
introduction about Islam, it is an entire way of life. It basically
consists of rights to the Creator and rights to the creation. Rights
to Creator, you have got to worship Him alone, without asssociating
partners with Him. That includes establishing the prayer, paying Zakat
which is almsgiving if your wealth meets certain requirements,
fasting the month of Ramadan as soon as you become adult and to make
pilgrimage to the Holy site of Mecca where the Caaba is enshrined at
least once in your life, again, if certain social and financial
prerequisites were met. Note, Muslims do not idolise the Caaba. They
rather honour it as the sanctuary of the divine on earth. It is a
symble of monotheistic faith. Therefore, it has been determined by
Allah glory be to Him to face it while praying, no matter where you
were in the globe. Islam considers Jesus as the last mighty apostle of
God. He is the last mighty messenger in advance of the seal one,
prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon both of them. Islam's
adherents are irrevocably enjoined to be humble, respectful.
Concurrently, they are obliged to seek and speak the word of truth
despite how tough the consequences might turn out to be. Islam
prohibits harming human beings. Islam calls us to correct our
behaviour constantly. No one is perfect nevertheless, no one is born
sinful either. Human nature is developed to chase temporally desirable
acts. Worship is designated to gradually elevate the spirit until it
reaches the celestial realm. Haters of Islam pervert religious
concepts and traditions to aid promoting their discouraging
propaganda. They never apply something known as fact-finding or
investigatory process. They never dare hosting someone who is a proper
representer of or genuinely edified about Islam. Instead, they
prejudiciously bring people who're mentally deranged of irrationally
detesting Islam, paranoiacs. They couldn't feature at least
fair-minded individuals. Their allegedly expert on Islam has to be
radically fanatic, opprobrious, full of hate and anger toward Islam. I
therefore am used to exposing many of those. Some of them are Arabs
and their vast majority is comprised of westerns. It is
not practically potential for me to cover everything about Islam here.
Therefore, I urge those who are interested to go farther to directly
interact with me. You could reply to this message to do so.
Alternatively, we may always schedule a Skype arrangement, if your
enquiry demands a scholarly thorough response. Thank you so much
for patiently reading. This is me, Cleric Mustafa, I'm based in Cairo
Egypt.
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(Seeking knowledge is compulsory from cratle to grave because it is a
shoreless ocean.)
