Maybe it's that everyone who doesn't live in New York City has a weird idea
of what ethnic food is.
Miriam
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Well, there was a pizza restaurant around here that not too long ago was
advertising its Mexican Pizza. I think they also made a Hawaiian pizza.
On 6/30/2016 4:32 PM, Carl Jarvis wrote:
On 6/30/16, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:to Trump's Empire Heavy.
Yes, we each choose which compromises we'll make in our lives.
But now to another point. What kind of pizza could be made by someone
named Papa Murphy? I mean, Papa Murphy might make irish stew or
irish whisky, but pizza? Papa Giovanni makes real pizza. It reminds
me of the Chinese restaurant in Ann Arbor Michigan that served a
tossed green ssalad as a side dish. I mean, people in the far flung
regions of our country have a weird idea about ethnic food!
Miriam
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Miriam and All,
Talking about compromising as part of our daily life. That works
well so long as both parties can live with the resulting compromise.
Like the other night. We were out late seeing a couple of new
clients. As we came into Sequim, I had a sudden craving for Pizza.
"Let's pick up a family size Papa Murphy's", I suggested. Cathy
said, "It's late and if I eat Pizza I'll have indigestion all night.
How about BLT's?"
Well, I really wanted Pizza, but at the same time I know how Cathy
suffers if she eats tomato sauces just prior to bed time. And I know
how this suffering effects her normal sweet disposition.
"I can live with that," I said. And I did.
But voting for Hillary Clinton is not a compromise, for me. She is
totally under the spell of the Empire. The Establishment. Bought
and paid for, although she spins some fantasy about being able to
take big piles of money without being beholden to the givers. But is
voting for Hillary a compromise? No. Clinton is Empire Light compared
That's like telling Cathy that we can still pick up that PapaWeird or not, Papa Murphy's Pizza stores are springing up all around
Murphy's Pizza, only we'll have it with Light Sauce.
Forget that, Light indigestion is no better than heavy indigestion at
bed time. Especially when I have to live with the results. I
already compromised by voting for Obama in 2008. Was I able to live
with that
8 year compromise? Well, I'm still here, if that's living with the
Obama compromise. But lots of people are not here. Little children
playing in the fields of Iraq, blown to bloody pieces by Obama Drones.
Folks separated from their children and shipped back "to where they
came from". More hidden unemployment. More families suffering from
their inability to cover the basic costs of maintaining a family.
No, I don't think that signing up for another 8 years of the same old
same old, is a compromise. It is called, "Hope Lost".
And after the election I will go back to working for changes in the
Law that will bring some relief to the Working Class. Even knowing
that it is not my government. Even knowing that it is not a
compromise if Hillary sits in the Obal Office. But I will join any
fight to force changes, no matter how small, into this foreign Empire
that has destroyed any hope of democracy.
Carl Jarvis
On 6/29/16, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
There are a lot of people who don't want to live in a totally
different system. They want to return to the kind of regulated
capitalism that existed from the end of the depression until the mid
70's. That is what, I believe Sanders would like, except with a
government single payer system rather than medical insurance paid
for by employers. That is also what a lot of the white working class
would like. I'm not ssaying that you should agree with them. I'm
saying that it is necessary to recognize what many people are thinking.
Miriam
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The trouble with working within the system to bring about change is
that when it is the system that you want to change you are rather
defeating yourself. It appears pretty obvious to me that when
someone is committed to working within the system to bring about
change that person is not interested in changing the system.
On 6/29/2016 5:57 PM, Bob Hachey wrote:
Hi Miriam,believe that Sanders was and is working to better the lives of the
While I agree with a good bit of what Mackler has to say here, I
sincerely
bottom 50 percent of income earners. I agree with you that Sanders
believes that working within the system is the best way to win some
real change. But I think we were all pretty sure that sanders would
throw his support to Clinton in the end.
Also, Sanders support for much of our current foreign policy doesin well with the change he says he wants.
not fit
Seems to me, the bottom line is how much change do we want and whatprepared to risk to implement such change? No doubt that the two
are we
parties in power now will fight tooth and nail to hold onto that
power in the face of any others no matter what their party. I
believe that if, let's say, Jill Stein or Alyson Kennedy were ever
able to mount a serious threat to the establishment, we'd see some
mighty ugly behavior and possibly violence perpetrated by the
leadership of both parties against that threat. Until and unless we
can reverse the Cittizens VS. United decision, I don't think we'll
see the kind of change that you and I might like.
Bob Hachey
the West. It is not as good as the Deep Dish Pizza I used to get when
I was in New York, but it is a "ready to cook" Pizza, made while you
wait, and made to order. Pop it in the oven for about ten or fifteen
minutes, and yum yum, hot pizza. We usually get a Cheese, Black
Olive, Pepperoni combo with light sauce.
I suspect that it is about as Italian as Chop Sooey is Chinese. But I
don't buy it for its pedigree.
They put just about anything they can fit on top of a pizza shell. My
kids loved Canadian Bacon and Pineapple.
I will eat most anything except fish on my pizza. I like green
pepper, onions and sausage along with my cheese, pepperoni and black
olives.
But now my clock says it's time to stop compromising(procrastinating),
and get back to work.
Carl Jarvis
