[blind-democracy] Re: Garrison Keillor on Retiring: "Paul Krugman Is the American Conscience. I Don't Think I Am at All."

  • From: Carl Jarvis <carjar82@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 07:42:32 -0700

Well Dick, "Feel Good" stuff is food for our Souls. In order to
offset much of the real world posts on this and other social media
lists, I bury my face....or my ears, in fiction. Just speaking for
myself, since I'm always my own best example, I absolutely need time
out in order to keep from going over the edge and beginning to sound
like one of those Old Time Doom and Gloom Prophets. I must say that
uplifting escape stuff is getting harder and harder to find. I used
to bury my face in mysteries, but the violence has increased and
especially the use of sexual violence to women, that I can no longer
enjoy that genre
So I escape into humor. Not much on TV, but I wore out the reruns of,
"Everybody Loves Raymond", and "Golden Girls". Wait, Wait, Don't Tell
Me is always good for a chuckle, and until lately I listened to Car
Talk. But stand up comics like Donald Trump are not on my current
listening list.

Carl Jarvis
On 9/2/15, R. E. Driscoll Sr <llocsirdsr@xxxxxxx> wrote:

All:
GK causes me to 'feel good' about myself but then the show is over and I
am forced to be truthful.
R. E. (Dick) Driscoll, Sr.

On 9/1/2015 11:46 PM, Carl Jarvis wrote:
I've listened to Garrison Keillor off and on since 1976. For me, his
programs are as American as baseball, apple pie and Mom. Over the
years he has had some other American institutions on. Chet Atkins and
Bob Elliot...of Bob and Ray. And you can't get more authentic
American Music. And when I listen to Lake Wobegon, I chuckle because
it could just as easily be my wife's Italian family. I have a dear
friend who is Jewish. She confided that she is convinced that is her
families story. We decided that Garrison Keillor really touched the
center of all communities, everywhere.
I know that I will get past missing the weekly shows when the last
program is aired, but I suspect it will be a bit like how I have
missed my parents. We always talked by phone at least every Saturday.
For years following their deaths, I found myself reaching for the
phone to check in and get the latest gossip from back home. Mother
died in 1996 and dad in 2001. Those dates are meaningless. Time can
enter a warp and years mean nothing. Deep memories trump Time, every
time. Even now, as I write my thoughts, I could pick up the phone and
be certain one of my parents would be waiting on the other end. I do
really miss them. But even as I say that, I've never actually lost
them.
Now how the Hell did I get that far away from Garrison Keillor? Well,
I know that for years to come I'll close my eyes and just, "Hear that
old Piano..."

Carl JarvisOn 8/31/15, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Excerpt: "My last show, I believe, will be at the Hollywood Bowl, the
first
Saturday in July 2016. And then we'll have kind of a dizzying moment,
realizing that life is changing after all these years."

Garrison Keillor on Grand Avenue in St. Paul, near his bookstore Common
Good
Books in 2014. (photo: Jean Pieri/Pioneer Press)


Garrison Keillor on Retiring: "Paul Krugman Is the American Conscience.
I
Don't Think I Am at All."
By Caty Enders, Guardian UK
31 August 15

The Prairie Home Companion host is preparing to leave Lake Wobegon - but
with plenty of projects in the pipeline, he shows no sign of slowing
down

Most nights this month, Garrison Keillor, host of the long-running radio
show A Prairie Home Companion, has put on a white suit, red tie and
sneakers, then stepped off his tour bus to perform a version of his
weekly
program to live audiences around the US.
His America the Beautiful Tour features many of the same songs, skits
and
stories - like the news from Lake Wobegon - that listeners to his
Saturday
night variety show have heard for the last 42 years. His baritone voice,
crooning over rhubarb pie and powdermilk biscuits, is as sweet as it has
always been. The show's themes - love and family, tragedy and small-town
misadventure - are as poignant as ever. Perhaps there are more prostate
jokes these days.
And perhaps lately the songs are a little sadder. Last month, Keillor
announced that this would be his farewell tour: after wrapping up the
30-city circuit in Alaska on Sunday, he will complete one more season of
A
Prairie Home Companion, then leave Lake Wobegon for good.
For the four million Americans who regularly tune in, it will be the
departure of a man many grew up listening to and the loss of a world
they
are accustomed to inhabiting for a couple of hours each weekend. When he
takes the show on the road, Keillor rewrites the stories for each city,
leaving audiences feeling the fictional Lake Wobegon is just a stone's
throw
away, the characters as familiar and eccentric as an extended family.
Keillor says it's time for him to step back and focus on crafting new
worlds. Once a staff writer at the New Yorker, he has, on the side,
authored
or edited 25 books of fiction and three of poetry.
The Guardian caught up with Keillor before a show in Eugene, Oregon -
and
after he had driven 12 hours from a performance in Salt Lake City.
I think you should tell NPR they should let you keep the dirty jokes you
used when the show was in Brooklyn a couple weeks ago.
Hm. It was not what I would consider a comfortable show, but it was
there
and we did it. The show has changed a good deal since then. But that's
natural, being out on the road. When I was at the Kings Theater, I was
still
very uncertain about the monologue, and I was still sort of pulling it
out
of the air. I was pulling from some older monologues, some older Lake
Wobegon stories, which I had intended to do, but I still hadn't quite
figured out my way.
You've been riding a tour bus for four decades. When do you find time to
write your stories?
I write on the bus, or I write sitting here in a hotel room. I have a
memoir
I'm trying to push along the road. And then the show needs to be
rewritten
somewhat for each venue. People like to hear local references, and so I
put
those in. I rewrite a couple of songs for each place. Just, you know,
steady
workman-like work.
I was worried talking to you would feel like talking to the voice of
God.
No, no, I'm just a writer. I'm just a writer who looked to slip into
radio
as a way of supporting myself. You know, I just started out writing
short
fiction for the New Yorker. I wrote a non-fiction piece about the Grand
Ole
Opry down in Nashville, and that kind of got me on this track, and I've
been
on it for 41 years, and now I'm getting off it.
If you're just a writer, you've spent a lot of free time producing a
radio
show.
I'm at the end of a very long and pretty happy detour. I am an inventor
and
an editor, and that's what I enjoy. I love rewriting as much as I like
writing. I really do. I love to sit and print out a hard copy of
something
and go over it and over it.
I'm not an inventor any more with this show; I'm a curator. I'm trying
to
keep something going that I invented a long time ago.
You invent things for the radio: Guy Noir and the Lives of the Cowboys.
You
invent a town with all these characters in it and story lines, and it's
been
interesting, until you realize that you have created [wry laugh] an
obligation to keep it going, for the listener. And it's at that point
that
your inventiveness wanes. And you feel restless.
You've threatened to retire before. You mean it this time?
When you're 73, you really are aware of how you are changing, the good
and
the bad. And you don't want to stay doing something past the point where
you
feel confident and presentable.
It's hard to think of you off the air. You've reached the point where
you
seem like the American conscience, popping in every weekend.
No, I think Paul Krugman, the columnist for the New York Times, is the
American conscience. I don't think I am at all.
What comes next?
I want to write a play. That's become the ambition: plays and
screenplays.
That's entirely new to me, and it feels adventurous.
What's the reception been like on your final go round?
The audiences have been very big, and you notice that especially
outdoors,
like when you're out at Red Rocks, and there's this great mountain of
people. Or last night in Salt Lake City, and this whole grassy hill is
just
covered with people sitting there with blankets and lawn chairs and so
on.
In the show, I go out into the crowd, usually twice, walking around at
the
beginning, and then during the intermission, I walk out there with just
a
handheld microphone, and I walk through the crowd in the dark. It's just
very mysterious: the spotlight is on you, but it's in your eyes, so you
can't really see, and you're trying not to trip over people, and you're
walking through the crowd, and you're singing.
You're singing a verse of this and a verse of that - just songs that
they
would know. And so they're all singing around you, and they sing My
Country
'Tis of Thee and America the Beautiful and Working on the Railroad and
Can't
Help Falling in Love and some Everly Brothers and You Are My Sunshine -
and
just on and on. And they love to do this. They're singing it a capella,
there's no band playing. It's just people's voices around you, in the
dark.
The point of all this - so obvious that you don't even need to point it
out
- is that we are one country, and this is the basis of everything.
Is there a reason you called the last tour America the Beautiful?
Coming to the end of intermission, I start the audience on the Battle
Hymn
of the Republic, and I make a little speech, and it's a one-minute
speech
and it is that every few years, we need to take back the country. The
values
for which the civil war was fought is still at issue and always will be,
and
the issue of justice and equality and liberty still need to be fought
for
by
every generation, and people are emotional about this. I don't know - ha
-
what they think I mean, but I just mean that it never was settled, and
so
then we launch into:
I have seen Him in the watchfires
Of a hundred circling camps .
He has sounded forth the trumpet
That shall never sound retreat .
Mine eyes have seen the glory
Of the coming of the Lord .
In beauty of the lilies,
Christ born across the sea...
... They do all four verses a cappella, and they do this rousing chorus,
in
four-part harmony. It just gets stronger and stronger as the song goes
on.
And it's a very powerful moment. People are moved by it. It's not
political
as people understand "political"; it is just very, very basic.
There's no place else that people get a chance to do that.
So you've been touring the country for decades. Are we in a sorry state?
What seems to me to be unchanging is the ambition of young people. When
I
go
and have a chance to mingle with high school and college students - not
to
stand up and lecture to them, but to be among them and to talk to them -
if
anything, I find them much more socially aware, much more ambitious, and
much more articulate than we were back in the 1960s.
People my age, I don't know who they are - I don't know them, any of
them,
anymore. But when I get a chance to hang out with the future, I feel
pretty
good about it.
Hasn't Prairie Home always been on a farewell tour? It seems like the
show
has always been saying goodbye to the America that we used to know.
I don't think so. I'm aware that people look on it as a show of
nostalgia.
I
don't exactly feel that way. I was kind of launched on doing the show by
an
affection for what I considered to be classic American music. Now it's
called "roots" music, I guess.
Pop music of my era was trying to create obsolescence, as a business
strategy. I'm not nostalgic for that era, because, in addition to
producing
a few things that I think are permanent, it produced an awful lot of
crap
and an awful lot of fluff. And, you know, I'm not fond of that. I'm not.
I never was into kitsch, and that's really the basis of nostalgia: it's
being sentimental about the ordinary. And I don't feel that way. The
America
that I feel strongly about is a sort of classic America. I feel very
attached to figures in the 19th century long before I came along -
writers:
Thoreau, Whitman, Dickinson. I feel moved by them, more than by people
of
my
own time.
So to me that's not an America that has gone away. That's an America
that
is
permanent. I think Thoreau is permanent, I think Emily Dickinson is
permanent, and . I'm an English major. I'm talking like an English
major.
It's cool. I'm an English major, too.
Hm.
I know you've named your successor on the show, Chris Thile, who's a
musician. What about all the stories? Have you considered trying to
cultivate someone to take that side of it over as a podcast?
Well, I'm not interested in podcasts. Other people are, and I wish them
well, but that's not my line of work. I'm interested in the show
continuing
as a live broadcast for the time being, from the Midwest.
The alternative would be to carry on the show in reruns, which could be
done. I'm not in favor of that. I would rather the show be carried on by
younger people to use this platform - which we've worked hard to
establish
-
and this staff and crew - who are tremendously capable and loyal - and
use
it as a springboard for something new: a live, acoustic American music
show
with some new spoken elements to be named later.
And that's what I like: I like the idea of paving the way for performers
in
their 20s and 30s to come in and take this over. This seems to me to be
utterly natural and the way it should be.
It sounds like your days are so full that it would be a difficult
transition
to retirement.
No, I would always find things to work on. Work is really what I do. I
don't
have any hobbies. I guess I intend to ride trains more. I really love
trains, and I need to get out and walk more, for my own good. You know,
you
become a little monastic in this work life.
So I won't change some things, but I have no end of things to work on. I
have a memoir, and it's due, and I have a novel that I have to do, and
it's
not Lake Wobegon. It's kind of a darker novel.
When do we tune in for your last show?
My last show, I believe, will be at the Hollywood Bowl, the first
Saturday
in July 2016. And then we'll have kind of a dizzying moment, realizing
that
life is changing after all these years.

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Garrison Keillor on Grand Avenue in St. Paul, near his bookstore Common
Good
Books in 2014. (photo: Jean Pieri/Pioneer Press)
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Garrison Keillor on Retiring: "Paul Krugman Is the American Conscience.
I
Don't Think I Am at All."
By Caty Enders, Guardian UK
31 August 15
The Prairie Home Companion host is preparing to leave Lake Wobegon - but
with plenty of projects in the pipeline, he shows no sign of slowing
down
ost nights this month, Garrison Keillor, host of the long-running
radio
show A Prairie Home Companion, has put on a white suit, red tie and
sneakers, then stepped off his tour bus to perform a version of his
weekly
program to live audiences around the US.
His America the Beautiful Tour features many of the same songs, skits
and
stories - like the news from Lake Wobegon - that listeners to his
Saturday
night variety show have heard for the last 42 years. His baritone voice,
crooning over rhubarb pie and powdermilk biscuits, is as sweet as it has
always been. The show's themes - love and family, tragedy and small-town
misadventure - are as poignant as ever. Perhaps there are more prostate
jokes these days.
And perhaps lately the songs are a little sadder. Last month, Keillor
announced that this would be his farewell tour: after wrapping up the
30-city circuit in Alaska on Sunday, he will complete one more season of
A
Prairie Home Companion, then leave Lake Wobegon for good.
For the four million Americans who regularly tune in, it will be the
departure of a man many grew up listening to and the loss of a world
they
are accustomed to inhabiting for a couple of hours each weekend. When he
takes the show on the road, Keillor rewrites the stories for each city,
leaving audiences feeling the fictional Lake Wobegon is just a stone's
throw
away, the characters as familiar and eccentric as an extended family.
Keillor says it's time for him to step back and focus on crafting new
worlds. Once a staff writer at the New Yorker, he has, on the side,
authored
or edited 25 books of fiction and three of poetry.
The Guardian caught up with Keillor before a show in Eugene, Oregon -
and
after he had driven 12 hours from a performance in Salt Lake City.
I think you should tell NPR they should let you keep the dirty jokes you
used when the show was in Brooklyn a couple weeks ago.
Hm. It was not what I would consider a comfortable show, but it was
there
and we did it. The show has changed a good deal since then. But that's
natural, being out on the road. When I was at the Kings Theater, I was
still
very uncertain about the monologue, and I was still sort of pulling it
out
of the air. I was pulling from some older monologues, some older Lake
Wobegon stories, which I had intended to do, but I still hadn't quite
figured out my way.
You've been riding a tour bus for four decades. When do you find time to
write your stories?
I write on the bus, or I write sitting here in a hotel room. I have a
memoir
I'm trying to push along the road. And then the show needs to be
rewritten
somewhat for each venue. People like to hear local references, and so I
put
those in. I rewrite a couple of songs for each place. Just, you know,
steady
workman-like work.
I was worried talking to you would feel like talking to the voice of
God.
No, no, I'm just a writer. I'm just a writer who looked to slip into
radio
as a way of supporting myself. You know, I just started out writing
short
fiction for the New Yorker. I wrote a non-fiction piece about the Grand
Ole
Opry down in Nashville, and that kind of got me on this track, and I've
been
on it for 41 years, and now I'm getting off it.
If you're just a writer, you've spent a lot of free time producing a
radio
show.
I'm at the end of a very long and pretty happy detour. I am an inventor
and
an editor, and that's what I enjoy. I love rewriting as much as I like
writing. I really do. I love to sit and print out a hard copy of
something
and go over it and over it.
I'm not an inventor any more with this show; I'm a curator. I'm trying
to
keep something going that I invented a long time ago.
You invent things for the radio: Guy Noir and the Lives of the Cowboys.
You
invent a town with all these characters in it and story lines, and it's
been
interesting, until you realize that you have created [wry laugh] an
obligation to keep it going, for the listener. And it's at that point
that
your inventiveness wanes. And you feel restless.
You've threatened to retire before. You mean it this time?
When you're 73, you really are aware of how you are changing, the good
and
the bad. And you don't want to stay doing something past the point where
you
feel confident and presentable.
It's hard to think of you off the air. You've reached the point where
you
seem like the American conscience, popping in every weekend.
No, I think Paul Krugman, the columnist for the New York Times, is the
American conscience. I don't think I am at all.
What comes next?
I want to write a play. That's become the ambition: plays and
screenplays.
That's entirely new to me, and it feels adventurous.
What's the reception been like on your final go round?
The audiences have been very big, and you notice that especially
outdoors,
like when you're out at Red Rocks, and there's this great mountain of
people. Or last night in Salt Lake City, and this whole grassy hill is
just
covered with people sitting there with blankets and lawn chairs and so
on.
In the show, I go out into the crowd, usually twice, walking around at
the
beginning, and then during the intermission, I walk out there with just
a
handheld microphone, and I walk through the crowd in the dark. It's just
very mysterious: the spotlight is on you, but it's in your eyes, so you
can't really see, and you're trying not to trip over people, and you're
walking through the crowd, and you're singing.
You're singing a verse of this and a verse of that - just songs that
they
would know. And so they're all singing around you, and they sing My
Country
'Tis of Thee and America the Beautiful and Working on the Railroad and
Can't
Help Falling in Love and some Everly Brothers and You Are My Sunshine -
and
just on and on. And they love to do this. They're singing it a capella,
there's no band playing. It's just people's voices around you, in the
dark.
The point of all this - so obvious that you don't even need to point it
out
- is that we are one country, and this is the basis of everything.
Is there a reason you called the last tour America the Beautiful?
Coming to the end of intermission, I start the audience on the Battle
Hymn
of the Republic, and I make a little speech, and it's a one-minute
speech
and it is that every few years, we need to take back the country. The
values
for which the civil war was fought is still at issue and always will be,
and
the issue of justice and equality and liberty still need to be fought
for
by
every generation, and people are emotional about this. I don't know - ha
-
what they think I mean, but I just mean that it never was settled, and
so
then we launch into:
I have seen Him in the watchfires
Of a hundred circling camps .
He has sounded forth the trumpet
That shall never sound retreat .
Mine eyes have seen the glory
Of the coming of the Lord .
In beauty of the lilies,
Christ born across the sea...
... They do all four verses a cappella, and they do this rousing chorus,
in
four-part harmony. It just gets stronger and stronger as the song goes
on.
And it's a very powerful moment. People are moved by it. It's not
political
as people understand "political"; it is just very, very basic.
There's no place else that people get a chance to do that.
So you've been touring the country for decades. Are we in a sorry state?
What seems to me to be unchanging is the ambition of young people. When
I
go
and have a chance to mingle with high school and college students - not
to
stand up and lecture to them, but to be among them and to talk to them -
if
anything, I find them much more socially aware, much more ambitious, and
much more articulate than we were back in the 1960s.
People my age, I don't know who they are - I don't know them, any of
them,
anymore. But when I get a chance to hang out with the future, I feel
pretty
good about it.
Hasn't Prairie Home always been on a farewell tour? It seems like the
show
has always been saying goodbye to the America that we used to know.
I don't think so. I'm aware that people look on it as a show of
nostalgia.
I
don't exactly feel that way. I was kind of launched on doing the show by
an
affection for what I considered to be classic American music. Now it's
called "roots" music, I guess.
Pop music of my era was trying to create obsolescence, as a business
strategy. I'm not nostalgic for that era, because, in addition to
producing
a few things that I think are permanent, it produced an awful lot of
crap
and an awful lot of fluff. And, you know, I'm not fond of that. I'm not.
I never was into kitsch, and that's really the basis of nostalgia: it's
being sentimental about the ordinary. And I don't feel that way. The
America
that I feel strongly about is a sort of classic America. I feel very
attached to figures in the 19th century long before I came along -
writers:
Thoreau, Whitman, Dickinson. I feel moved by them, more than by people
of
my
own time.
So to me that's not an America that has gone away. That's an America
that
is
permanent. I think Thoreau is permanent, I think Emily Dickinson is
permanent, and . I'm an English major. I'm talking like an English
major.
It's cool. I'm an English major, too.
Hm.
I know you've named your successor on the show, Chris Thile, who's a
musician. What about all the stories? Have you considered trying to
cultivate someone to take that side of it over as a podcast?
Well, I'm not interested in podcasts. Other people are, and I wish them
well, but that's not my line of work. I'm interested in the show
continuing
as a live broadcast for the time being, from the Midwest.
The alternative would be to carry on the show in reruns, which could be
done. I'm not in favor of that. I would rather the show be carried on by
younger people to use this platform - which we've worked hard to
establish
-
and this staff and crew - who are tremendously capable and loyal - and
use
it as a springboard for something new: a live, acoustic American music
show
with some new spoken elements to be named later.
And that's what I like: I like the idea of paving the way for performers
in
their 20s and 30s to come in and take this over. This seems to me to be
utterly natural and the way it should be.
It sounds like your days are so full that it would be a difficult
transition
to retirement.
No, I would always find things to work on. Work is really what I do. I
don't
have any hobbies. I guess I intend to ride trains more. I really love
trains, and I need to get out and walk more, for my own good. You know,
you
become a little monastic in this work life.
So I won't change some things, but I have no end of things to work on. I
have a memoir, and it's due, and I have a novel that I have to do, and
it's
not Lake Wobegon. It's kind of a darker novel.
When do we tune in for your last show?
My last show, I believe, will be at the Hollywood Bowl, the first
Saturday
in July 2016. And then we'll have kind of a dizzying moment, realizing
that
life is changing after all these years.
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