If what you say is correct, then why Jews are manipulating both Europe and
the States?
What has Saudi got to do with this?
Please, stick to simple facts when you speak about a history that belongs to
my region.
Confusion and stereotypedness is perfect to describe what you said below.
If you like Jews, that's fine.
I know the difference between the Jewish religion and Zionism.
But, to say that many Jews aren't Zionists, don't you think you are
exaggerating a bit?
Many Jews aren't Zionists?
Many?
Seriously?
Look, you better talk about cookies, you'll be more believed.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "Miriam Vieni" <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 4:40 PM
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Freedom of speech
Bob,
Your facts are incorrect. They are based on confusion and stereotype. I will
respond to you this one time and then I will no longer have this particular
discussion with you.
Not all Jewish people are Zionists. My background is Jewish and I am not a
supporter of Israel. There are many Jews who do not support Israel. But
there are many who do and they do so for a variety of complicated reasons.
One of the reasons is that many of us were lied to about how and why the
Falfour Declaration came to be and what happened when the State of Israel
was declared. The fact that Israel and the US are acting together with
Ssaudi Arabia to attempt to dominate the Middle East at this point in
history, has very little to do with what was happening to Jews and Europeans
and Americans and Palaestinians in the nineteenth century.
Jews were a hated minority in Europe and they were allowed few areas of the
society in which they could function. However, they were permitted to handle
finances. It doesn't follow that they were powerful or directing what was
happening in Christian countries. The leaders of Christian countries
scapegoated them, blamed all their countries' problems on them, just like
Mr. Trump scapegoats Muslims and Mexican immigrants today. The reason that
so many American Jews objected to Mr. Trump's Muslim bans is that they
understood that these bans are precisely the kinds of things that have been
done to Jews in the past.
When you say that you disagree about how many people were eliminated during
the Nazi genocide of the Jews, (and also of homosexuals, Gypsies, disabled
people, and communists), you are denying a reality that you have been taught
by your leaders to deny in the same way that so many Americans deny the fact
that human behavior is causing climate change. Denials of fact won't make
the facts go away. You are free to say whatever you please, but your
opinions will not be respected by knowledgeable people of good will.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 3:35 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Freedom of speech
I disagree with you.
Even if we suppose the occurrence of this carnage by the Nazis, the number
six million is exaggerated. The reality is, Jews bribed Christians and
through the commencement of Protestantism, they were capable of fully
directing Christians to stand by their interest. Look until today, how
Christians became a held device at Jewish hands. Christians aided them to
establish a statehood in occupied Palestine. And, through enforcing their
military strength, Christians stand behind daily Israeli crimes. I challenge
anyone anywhere in the west who has authority or he is a head of state to
just utter a word about Israel and its inhumane practices. The reason the
fibbed Holocaust account couldn't be questioned, examined, challenged or
historically investigated, is that Jews are Christian's major economic
provider. And, if they played with fire, they will basically be burned. Who
made the global banking system that we're wholly coerced to hold fast to
today? Weren't them? The hatred of Jews is primarily based on their long and
dark history of dissimulation. When they committed terrible massacres in
Lebanon and Palestine, no one in the whole western world stood to them in
explicit opposition. Just diplomatic remarks of condemnation have been made,
so western leaders could have an egg on their face. But today, no one dares
to even criticise what Israel does. Well instead, they justify.
Freedom of speech to refute, without needing the First Amendment. As I
fathom, First Amendment is bill to the Constitution of the United States
guaranteeing the right of free expression, includes freedom of assembly,
freedom of press, freedom of religion and freedom of speech. So, does it
also include freedom of evasiveness and perhaps, fabrication?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Miriam Vieni" <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 2:59 AM
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Freedom of speech
The reason that people who question the reality of the holocaust are
criticized is that the Nazi extermination of 6 million Jews is historical
fact. People who deny this fact are considered to be denying this
particular
piece of history because of their prejudice against Jewish people.
Criticizing people for denying reality is not the same as denying them
freedom of speech.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 4:53 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Freedom of speech
Freedom of speech is the right to express an opinion in public without
being
restrained or censored. Ordinarily, the United States is prejudiciously
portrayed as the paragon of free expression. I distinctly destine to pick
Americanism apart. Each and everyone in many regions across the globe is
entitled to opine his opinion freely. The United States did not invent the
right of free expression. It is not exclusive to American Constitution or
its amendments. Freedom of expression is openly practiced therein as long
as
Islam is incessantly denigrated. But, if someone questioned the holocaust
or
its chronicle, for instance, he is instantly subjected to counterfeit
allegations of antisemitism. This is my endeavour concern of American
double
standard. When a Muslim Commits mass murder, he is unhesitatingly labelled
with perpetrating terror. However, if a white supremacist committed mass
murder with even high rate of fatalities, he is classified as a demented
and
atypical individual. I have no idea how to illustrate this plain
contradiction. How could you be fairish and oppressive simultaneously? I
respect decent Americans. But, as to Americanism, how could you
consistently
be guilty, jury and judge at the same time? I do not destine to repudiate
everything about your culture. At the same time, I believe my alleged
testimony is somewhat sane and relevantly presentable. Ultimately, I
sincerely wish each and every American friend who is receiving this
message
a prosperous celebration of Thanksgiving with family, friends and loved
ones. Impeachment without decisive evidence is unbearable. Affection
without
practical signs is inconsiderable. Life is shorter to be unwisely wasted
in
grief. Brave men are the ones hasten to proudly apologise whenever they
have
committed a mistake. Faith is our eminent resort for attaining
Providential
Grace.
Seductress women are gorgeous in figure, demonic in spirit. Inner beauty
lasts longer than outward one. Family is the essence of a stable society.
Being blind is never the source of distress. It is rather of enormous
admiration, pride, self-esteem and substantial confidence. Autistic
children
are brilliant and just lovely. Braille is my guide to traditional
edification. Assistive technology is my portal to broad communication with
people everywhere around the world. Donald Trump is basically petulant and
misanthrope. Women who seek to have a relationship with married men are
love
stealers. Sugared food is everyone's unbeatable enticement. Intimacy is
beyond mere involvement of having intercourse. It is initially about
genuine
affection and closeness. Dawn is my favourite time of the day. Friday is
my
favourite day of the week. I usually have chocolate biscuits and sugarless
greentea on a regular Friday morning. Indeed, these are two strange things
to combine. Medina Dates are my favourite fruit. I tend to shop online for
them on a periodical basis. Who is the famous person you wish you've met?
Scottish author and historian, Thomas Carlyle.
Thank you and sincerest regards, Bob
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