That kind of shirt is a plaquet.
Miriam
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Sent: Friday, August 14, 2020 10:09 PM
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Casual is definitely my style. I have a pair of heavy work pants, but other
than that it has been decades since I have worn any kind of pants at all other
than blue jeans. My shirts are all either the kind that button only down the
chest part of the way - I forget the name of that kind of shirt - or T-shirts.
Several of my T-shirts are emblazoned with political slogans or emblems. One of
them has the image of Che Guevara on it. I kind of wonder what you would have
said about the way I wear my hair. I don't think it is unkempt. I just comb it
straight back and let it hang down my back. It comes to about the bottom of my
shoulder blades. I really don't like this at all, but it has gotten rather thin
on top. That does not fit the way I think of myself at all. I think of myself
as looking like I did the last time I saw myself in a mirror and my hair was
not thinning at all back then, but that was over thirty-two years ago now.
Also, the last time I saw myself in a mirror I only had a few gray hairs around
the ears. But then time went by and someone mentioned my salt and pepper beard.
I was shocked. I could not imagine myself with a salt and pepper beard. Then
more time went by and I was mentioning to someone how much I must have changed
since I last saw myself and brought up the salt and pepper beard comment. This
person said that there was a lot more salt than pepper. Again I was shocked.
But that shock was not as great as the one that came even later. Someone told
me that I had a rather appealing look. At least it was appealing, but not in
the way I would have preferred. I was told that I looked appealing because I
looked like Santa Claus because of my long white beard. It is a full beard that
comes down to the bottom of my breastbone. Egad! The shock was overwhelming. I
just can't quite imagine myself as a Santa Claus lookalike.
___
Carl Sagan
“Every aspect of Nature reveals a deep mystery and touches our sense of wonder
and awe. Those afraid of the universe as it really is, those who pretend to
nonexistent knowledge and envision a Cosmos centered on human beings will
prefer the fleeting comforts of superstition. They avoid rather than confront
the world. But those with the courage to explore the weave and structure of the
Cosmos, even where it differs profoundly from their wishes and prejudices, will
penetrate its deepest mysteries.”
― Carl Sagan, Cosmos
On 8/14/2020 5:48 PM, Carl Jarvis wrote:
This was always a good topic to get students all stirred up back in
the 70's and 80's, in our "Adjustment to Blindness" sessions.
One hulking student, wearing a fuzzy beard and over grown hair
shouted, "No one is going to tell me what I can wear, or how I keep my
hair and beard". He went on to suggest that the other person should
do some anatomically impossible act, and then he stormed out of the
class.
Later, in my office, I said that he had the right to dress as he
pleased and wear his hair as he chose, but if he was told that the
boss would not offer the job unless he met the expected standards,
then he might as well save both the bosses and his time, by cancelling
the interview.
Although there were many hard working men who looked about the same as
my student, they were doing jobs that required eyesight. Nearly ten
years later, when I retired, he was still wearing his unruly hair and
massive beard, and wearing his black and red plaid shirt, and was
still out of work.
I never liked wearing a tie. But I worked for many years for a
director who insisted that her management team, three men and two
women, dress in formal attire. We men could wear sports jackets and
slacks, but we must have a tie. I kept a tie or two in a drawer in my
office, and if I received a sudden call to come to the bosses office,
I grabbed one as I headed out. With my students it was far more
proper to dress casual. So off with the tie, open the collar button,
roll the sleeves part way up and try not to drool.
For 25 years, working in the field as rehab teachers, Cathy and I
always dressed casually. When we retired this past June 30th, we
received many calls commenting on the quality of our service, but not
a word regarding how we dressed.
Carl Jarvis
On 8/14/20, Frank Ventura <frank.ventura@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Well, the dress code the boss gives me makes me wear a shirt and tie
to work every day so I guess you wouldn't want to associate with me.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Roger Loran
Bailey
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 3:17 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: FW: Article on face masks
Personally, I have never functioned in a milieu in which dressing up
was the norm. And I have never taken pleasure in seeing someone who
was all dressed up. If I see two people walking down the street and
one is wearing a suit and tie and the other is wearing jeans and a
T-shirt I know that the highest probability is that the jeans and
T-shirt guy will be the nicer guy and most probably the one in the
suit and tie will look down on me as if I was a dog turd that he had
stepped on. I never became a communist because I was some bourgeois
dressed up liberal type who thought it would be fun to go slumming.
All the people I have been surrounded by for my whole life have been
working class people who dress up by putting on a fresh pair of
overalls. I do have resentment toward some types, but it has nothing
to do with which coast they might live on. It has a lot to do with
class exploitation, but I had to put forth some effort to learn about
that and when I did I came to understand the reasons behind what I
had been resenting before. What I had been resenting before was that
snobbish attitude toward me and the people I associated with.
___
Carl Sagan
“Every aspect of Nature reveals a deep mystery and touches our sense
of wonder and awe. Those afraid of the universe as it really is,
those who pretend to nonexistent knowledge and envision a Cosmos
centered on human beings will prefer the fleeting comforts of
superstition. They avoid rather than confront the world. But those
with the courage to explore the weave and structure of the Cosmos,
even where it differs profoundly from their wishes and prejudices, will
penetrate its deepest mysteries.”
― Carl Sagan, Cosmos
On 8/13/2020 1:34 PM, Carl Jarvis wrote:
Actually I don't disagree with you, Miriam. And I don't know if any
of today's restaurants have such a dress code. It's been a long
number of years since I dropped into a fine restaurant. Until the
lock down, we would go to the Point Casino on Saturday, for the
Crab/Lobster buffet. Once in a while we would take one of our
grand daughters to either the Red Lobster or the Olive Garden in Silverdale.
Decent prices and decent food and charming service...and no tie
required.
But now? It's a break in our routine when we scoot into Sequim and
pick up a Pizza from Pappa Murphy's.
Fortunately I have had the good fortune of 40 years being married to
a woman who is half Italian and half German, raised in a family of
cooks where everything begins with, "home made" .
But I was raised at the tailend of a far more polite generation.
Dressing up was the norm for most families. Going out to dinner?
Going to the movies? Going to take a train or bus? All required
dressing up. And we were taught to address our elders as, Mister
and Missus. Ma'am and Sir were also still in common use.
Even in the mid 70's when I first went to work for the State, were
told to "use first names whenever possible. It makes you seem more
like one of the group."
Back in those days I would say to a client who called me Mister
Jarvis, "I'm Carl. When you say Mister Jarvis, I look around for my
dad".
Carl Jarvis
On 8/13/20, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I don't know if there are restaurants that still do that. But there
were, and I went to them with a variety of people for years and
years, and there was nothing snobbish about them. There was a nice
atmosphere with people dressed up for the occasion because they
were going to a restaurant that served unusually fine food. This is
precisely the same conversation that took place on the BARD Talk
list a few days ago. It is, I suppose, the resentment of people in
certain parts of the country against people who live on the coasts
in urban centers. But you don't have to be rich to recognize that
there is value in education, that books can be beautifully written
or not, and that eating a beautifully prepared meal is a wonderful
experience.
When you can see, a restaurant with lovely decor and people dressed
in their finery is a pleasurable experience.
Miriam
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From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2020 11:35 AM
To: Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
Cc: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: FW: Article on face masks
Okay, so it was a bad example. Come to think of it, I've never
even been met at the door of any restaurant I could afford, and
told I'd need a tie.
That sort of greeting would cause me to instantly lose my appetite.
My friends all referred to me as, "that cheapskate Jarvis". Maybe
so, but by tucking that money aside I'm in better health than any
of them...those still living...and enjoying this home on ten acres.
But I chuckle and tell a few Jack Benny jokes, and take them out on
the deck to listen to the sound of leaves falling...and crickets
chirping...and frogs singing...and, if they listen very carefully
they can even hear the clouds bumping against one another.
Ah...Paradise!
Carl Jarvis
On 8/12/20, Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:
If I showed up at a restaurant and was told that I had to wear a
tie to get in I would realize that I had made a very serious
mistake in choosing a dining establishment, but I would correct
that mistake immediately by turning around and walking away and by
never again going near that joint. Anyway, I am reminded of when
Richard Nixon went to China. I was watching the coverage on
television and there was an American reporter standing on the side
of a broad street in Beijing.
Hoards of people were riding past him on bicycles and every single
one of those people was wearing a white mask that covered the
lower half of their faces. The reporter explained that it was the
custom to wear these masks as a precaution against spreading colds.
Apparently the Chinese have been used to these masks for a long
time now.
___
Carl Sagan
“Every aspect of Nature reveals a deep mystery and touches our
sense of wonder and awe. Those afraid of the universe as it really
is, those who pretend to nonexistent knowledge and envision a
Cosmos centered on human beings will prefer the fleeting comforts
of superstition. They avoid rather than confront the world. But
those with the courage to explore the weave and structure of the
Cosmos, even where it differs profoundly from their wishes and
prejudices, will penetrate its deepest mysteries.”
― Carl Sagan, Cosmos
On 8/12/2020 1:00 PM, Carl Jarvis wrote:
Well Mister Patrick Wood, I tried, I really tried to read your
drivel, I've seldom seen someone dragging red herring behind
them, while they beat up on Straw men. You go off dragging and
grunting all about
science and pseudoscience, while we are concerned with the rising
numbers of people contacting COVID-19, and what we can do to slow
it down or eradicate it. . We are learning of serious
complications suffered buy some who contact this virus. What we
want is to know what is working and what is not working.
Masks seem to block the spray from our breath, so some of us are
promoting it. Call it what you will, it still is one piece of
prevention. Washing our hands in approved solutions seems to be
a good idea, too. Until we know for certain how this virus is
spread, we need to take all the safe practices that we can. When
the Fox breaks into the Hen House, the Hens do not debate whether
they should use science or pseudo science as protection from the
Foxes, the hens just follow chicken logic and begin yelling their
heads off. There may be better techniques with fancy names, but
squawking is the one method they know. We're doing the best we
can, while you go about undermining our efforts, even to the
point of questioning the constitutionality of insisting people
wear masks. It's not found in the Constitution. Nor is wearing
clothes, or driving the speed limits, or stopping at red lights,
or dumping your poop pots in the gutter. Many of our laws and
regulations are set in place to protect people as best we can.
While we can't regulate carelessness or greed, we can establish
controls. It's no different than if you show up at a fine
restaurant and are told that you must have a tie in order to gain
entrance. That's not in the constitution either. Nor is the dog
leash law. Nor is running down the street in nothing but your
undershorts. We've had such regulations from our very beginnings
as a nation. So why are you trashing our efforts to protect
ourselves now?
Carl Jarvis
On 8/12/20, Frank Ventura <frank.ventura@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I rarely forward an e-mail from another list but I just wanted
you folks to see what kind of dribble folks are trying to
peddle. The far right is trading national safety for a few misguided
votes.
This is sad stuff.
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From: Blind exchange and discussion <BLIND-X@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Behalf Of Rovin Customer
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 2:02 AM
To: BLIND-X@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Article on face masks
Hello people, Ed Lopez back here. It has been a while sense I
have been on this list. Here is an article on face masks you
may want to read very carefully. Before anybody goes on this
rave about face masks, read this first.
The Miserable Pseudo-Science Behind Face Masks, Social
Distancing And Contact Tracing POSTED BY PATRICK WOOD 1033SC ON
JUNE 19, 2020 In a great suppression of free speech, technocrats
working the
COVID-19 pandemic are shaming, ridiculing, bullying and
marginalizing anyone who questions their pseudo-science and
shifting positions. The state-mandated wearing of face masks,
social distancing and contact tracing are all unconstitutional
and in some cases, illegal.
By Patrick Wood, June 2020
Once upon a time, there was something called science. It
included the discovery of truth about nature, the elements, the
universe, etc. It was practiced by honest and accountable
practitioners called scientists and engineers. They often
invented cool new things as a result of their studies, but
generally they had no primal urge to use their knowledge to
dominate other people, groups or even entire societies.
Then certain other scientists and engineers rose up and made a
discovery of their own. If true science was ever-so-slightly
skewed and engineering disciplines were applied to society at
large, then they could indeed use their “knowledge” to dominate
and control other people, groups, entire societies or even,
heaven forbid, the entire planet.
The first group pursued science. The second group pursued
pseudo-science.
Merriam-Webster defines pseudo-science as “a system of theories,
assumptions, and methods erroneously regarded as scientific.”
The Oxford dictionary clarifies by stating, “a collection of
beliefs or practices mistakenly regarded as being based on
scientific method.“
Pseudo-science quickly emerged as the principal domain of
Technocrats, but they soon found that scientific debate with
those promoting real science was most inconvenient to their
social engineering goals. The solution was
simple: claim that their own pseudo-science was indeed the real
science, and then refuse debate by excluding all other voices to
the contrary.
In the context of pseudo-science, this report will examine the
three primary tools of fighting COVID-19: face masks, social
distancing and contact tracing.
Face masks
The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) website
plainly states
<https://www.osha.gov/SLTC/covid-19/covid-19-faq.html> that
cloth face masks “Will not protect the wearer against airborne
transmissible infectious agents due to loose fit and lack of
seal or inadequate filtration.”
But, what about surgical masks? OHSA is clear here also that
they “will not protect the wearer against airborne transmissible
infectious agents due to loose fit and lack of seal or
inadequate filtration.”
But then right under these statements, OSHA furiously
backpedaled by adding an FAQ section on COVID-19 directly
underneath and stated
<https://www.osha.gov/SLTC/covid-19/covid-19-faq.html>,
OSHA generally recommends that employers encourage workers to
wear face coverings at work. Face coverings are intended to
prevent wearers who have Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
without knowing it (i.e., those who are asymptomatic or
pre-symptomatic) from spreading potentially infectious respiratory
droplets to others.
This is known as source control.
Consistent with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
(CDC) recommendation
<https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/
cl ot h-face-cover.html> for all people to wear cloth face
coverings when in public and around other people, wearing cloth
face coverings, if appropriate for the work environment and job
tasks, conserves other types of personal protective equipment
(PPE), such as surgical masks, for healthcare settings where
such equipment is needed most.
So, wearing a face mask cannot protect you from getting COVID,
but it is supposedly able to keep someone else from getting it from you?
OSHA is speaking out of both sides of its mouth. What it calls
“source control”
likely puts the real motive out in the open: since you are the
source, it’s about controlling YOU. There is no true scientific
rationale for anyone but the sick and medical workers to wear masks.
The truly healthy have no business wearing a mask, period.
But, what about asymptomatic carriers?
On June 8, 2020, Maria Van Herkhove, PhD., head of the World
Health Organization’s emerging diseases and zoonosis unit
released a compilation of a number of contact tracing programs
from various nations and plainly stated “From the data we have,
it still seems to be very rare that an asymptomatic person
actually transmits onward to a secondary individual.”
This writer hates to think what happened to Dr. Herkhove
overnight at the hands of her WHO handlers, because the next day
she also furiously backpedaled and stated “I used the phrase ‘very
rare,’
and I think that that’s misunderstanding to state that
asymptomatic transmission globally is very rare. I was referring
to a small subset of studies.”
It is clear that Dr. Herkhove’s first statement that naively
repeated the clear facts of the matter did not follow the WHO’s
justification for non-infectious people to wear masks. In fact,
the entire mask wearing narrative hangs on the single
pseudo-scientific idea that asymptomatic people can spread the virus.
In a recent Technocracy News article authored by
highly-respected neurosurgeon Dr. Russell Blaylock, MD titled
Face Masks Pose Serious Risks To The Healthy,
<https://technocracy.news/blaylock-face-masks-pose-serious-risks
-t
o- the-healthy/> he concluded, “there is insufficient evidence
that wearing a mask of any kind can have a significant impact in
preventing the spread of this virus.”
(Blaylock represents real science.)
Nevertheless, in the face of clear evidence of the worthlessness
of face masks for preventing disease,
States and municipalities are mandating that face masks be worn
by all citizens when outside their home Large and small
companies are forcing their employees to wear masks People at
large are scared to death to not wear a face mask for fear of
getting sick or being mask-shamed by others if they take it off.
Breath Is Vital To Life
Many people believe that face masks lower the percentage of
oxygen available for inhaling because you rebreathe much of your
exhausted breath.
However,
a face mask itself does not retain a significant amount of your
exhaled breath since most of it is exhaled through the mask into
the open atmosphere. Furthermore, when you inhale, most of the
air delivered to your lungs comes from outside the mask.
The real science is much more complicated than the amount of
residual air contained within a face mask.
The real problem with breathing through a mask is that the lungs
and chest muscles must exert a lot of extra energy to inhale and
exhale.
In other words, you must work harder to breathe the same amount
of fresh air that you would normally breathe without a mask.
For this reason, those who already have impaired lung functions,
minor as they may be, should never wear a mask unless it is for
a specific purpose for a very short period of time. The older
you are, especially those over 70, lung capacity and muscle
strength decline rapidly.
This writer has already encountered several retail store
employees, forced by their employers to wear a face mask during
work hours, who exhibit symptoms like headache, shortness of
breath or dizziness.
When asked if they relate their symptoms to wearing the mask,
every single one has emphatically said “Yes!”.
Workers with the most physically demanding jobs are the most
likely to exhibit these kind of symptoms. Other considerations
are age, any preexisting conditions of the lungs (like pleurisy,
COPD, chronic bronchitis, pneumonia, etc.) or chest muscles and
factors like poor physical condition and obesity. Actually, any
debilitating health condition should be a red flag. In other
words, those who are prone to get winded without a face mask
will immediately be at a disadvantage when wearing a mask. The
net effect is that the lungs receive less fresh air with vital
oxygen even as the body is under more physical stress.
Every employer and government entity that mandates the wearing
of face masks should be required to do two things: first, they
should carefully consider each employee as an individual to
determine their suitability for wearing a mask. All factors
mentioned above should be included, and in any case, no one
should be required to wear a mask if it puts too much stress on their
lungs.
Many state-level politicians are now mandating the wearing of
face masks for all citizens in public places. They have fallen
prey to pseudo-science and are now putting entire populations at
risk for physical harm that has nothing to do with the COVID-19 virus.
In sum, lung strength, physical condition, age, pre-existing
conditions, physical demands of the job, etc., should all be
carefully considered by all. A blanket statement that all
employees or all citizens should wear face masks it wholly
inappropriate.
Social Distancing
Adding to the fear of contagion, people across the nation are
driven to practice social distancing, or staying 6 feet apart at
all times.
This is practiced to excess in almost every commercial
establishment with markers taped or painted on the floor and
shopping isles converted into one-way travel only.
Yet, two real scientists at the University of Oxford in Britain,
Professors Carl Heneghan and Tom Jefferson, wrote in The
Telegraph
<https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/06/15/no-scientific-evide
nc
e- support-disastrous-two-metre-rule/>
(UK) recently that “the two-metre rule has no basis in science.”
Their article was titled There is no scientific evidence to
support the disastrous two-metre rule.
According to these scientists,
The influential Lancet review provided evidence from 172 studies
in support of physical distancing of one metre or more. This
might sound impressive, but all the studies were retrospective
and suffer from biases that undermine the reliability of their
findings. Recall bias arises in research when participants do
not remember previous events accurately, and it is problematic
when studies look back in time at how people behaved, including
how closely they stood from others.
More concerning was that only five of the 172 studies reported
specifically on Covid exposure and proximity with infection.
These studies included a total of merely 477 patients, with just
26 actual cases of infection. In only one study was a specific
distance measure reported: “came within six feet of the index
patient”. The result showed no effect of distance on contracting
Covid.
Heneghan and Jefferson further noted,
On further independent inspection of 15 studies included in the
review, we found multiple inconsistencies in the data, numerical
mistakes and unsound methods in 13 of them. When assumptions
over distance were made, we could not replicate any of them.
This is the hallmark of modern pseudo-science: inconsistencies
in the data, numerical mistakes, unsound methods and inability
to replicate results.
What is the real purpose of social distancing? It certainly is
not to curtail contagion. The only other possibility is to
curtail economic activity and prevent social cohesion. Humans
are social beings, after all, and lack of close proximity leads
to depression, anxiety and even serious health consequences.
Contact Tracing
Contact tracing is an established practice in modern medicine.
It is useful for the early stages of serious infectious diseases
like Ebola, tuberculosis and sexually transmitted diseases like
chlamydia.
Every credible expert on contact tracing says that it is
effective only up to the point of mass distribution. In other
words, during the early stages of a contagion or a slow moving
or very serious disease.
In the case of COVID-19, the horse has already left the barn.
Except to harass people, there is nothing useful that contact
tracing can accomplish.
Yet, almost every state in America is implementing a
wide-ranging contact tracing program that may ultimately employ
some 300,000 tracers.
The Center for Disease Control website states that
<https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/contact-tracing/c
on ta ct-tracing-plan/contact-tracing.html>
“Contact tracing will be conducted for close contacts
<https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/php/contact-tracing/c
on ta ct-tracing-plan/appendix.html#contact>
(any individual within 6 feet of an infected person for at least
15
minutes)
of laboratory-confirmed or probable COVID-19 patients.”
Furthermore, CDC complete definition of “close contact” is,
Someone who was within 6 feet of an infected person for at least
15 minutes starting from 2 days before illness onset (or, for
asymptomatic patients,
2
days prior to specimen collection) until the time the patient is
isolated.
If you are “exposed” to such a person, your personal information
will be collected and you will be contacted by the “tracer” to
be instructed to quarantine for up to two weeks. The infected
person could have been mistaken about having contact with you.
They could be someone who just wants to get you in trouble. If
you live in Washington state, where all restaurants are now
required to record the contact information of every patron, you
might not have a clue who was infected, but you will be quarantined
anyway.
Now, the CDC’s declaration of “6 feet” above takes us back to
social distancing, where we just learned above that there is “no
effect of distance on contracting COVID” in the first place.
Thus, find that contact tracing misses the mark on two main points:
first,
the virus is too widespread throughout the population to make
tracing effective and second, the criteria of six feet for
defining a “contact”
is
bogus.
So, why are governors, mayors and health departments ramping up
for a nationwide exercise in obtrusive contact tracing? Again,
pursuing a path of pseudo-science, the intended outcome is
control over people.
Conclusion
The American public is being spoon-fed a steady diet of
pseudo-science in order to justify the wearing of face masks,
social distancing and contact tracing. Yet, the actual science
points in the polar opposite direction.
Furthermore, those who try to present the real science are
shamed, ridiculed and bullied for having such narrow-minded views.
This is a clear sign of Technocrats-at-work. Instead, these are
the ones who should be exposed, shamed and ridiculed.
In sum, these dangerous and destructive policies are designed to
curtail economic activity, break down social cohesion and
control people.
Moreover,
they fit the original mission statement of Technocracy as far
back as
1938:
Technocracy is the science of social engineering, the scientific
operation of the entire social mechanism to produce and
distribute goods and services to the entire population…
It is highly doubtful that most state and local leaders
understand the lack of real and verified science behind their
actions and mandates.
Nevertheless, they are implementing policies that are
destructive to our economic system, harmful to our personal
health and ruinous to personal liberty.
