[blind-democracy] Re: Deep seated prejudice and sloppy training

  • From: peter altschul <paltschul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 16:09:22 -0600

As of a couple of years ago, most as those cities were developing partnerships between law enforcement and the communities they served - and crime rates continue to decline. Last I heard, no such effort is taking place in Chicago.

Check out the book Called to Rise: A Life in Faithful Service to the Community That Made Me by David Brown. I know it's available on Bookshare. Peter

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From: "Miriam Vieni" <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Date sent: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 16:17:48 -0500
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Deep seated prejudice and sloppy training

Yes, but think about St. Louis and its surrounding areas or Los Angeles or Baltimore or New York.

Miriam

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Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 3:46 PM
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Deep seated prejudice and sloppy training

Police in Chicago seem to be more likely to engage in these cross-racial shootings. It is, IMHO, one of the reasons why the crime rate there is so much higher than other comparable cities.

Frustrating - and very sad.

And where's the NRA in all of this? Aren't they a gunsRights organization for everyone, or just white people.

Just asking.

Best, Peter



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From: Carl Jarvis <carjar82@xxxxxxxxx
To: blind-democracy <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date sent: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 08:14:05 -0800
Subject: [blind-democracy] Deep seated prejudice?, or sloppy training?

By the time this story is spun into the official police report, it will never answer the question, Was the Officer so conditioned that he shot the security guard while under the influence of deep seated prejudices? So much of our behavior is controlled by conditioned responses, of which we are totally unaware.
Carl Jarvis
*****

EMILY SULLIVAN

Jemel Roberson and his 9-month-old son.

Avontea Boose via AP

Updated at 4 a.m.  ET on Wednesday

When police arrived after reports of a shooting over the weekend at a bar outside Chicago, witnesses say Jemel Roberson, a 26-year-old security guard who worked there, had already subdued the alleged assailant in the parking lot, pinning him to the ground.

Adam Harris, who was at Manny's Blue Bar in Robbins at the time of the incident on Sunday, told WGN-TV that Roberson was holding "somebody on the ground with his knee in his back, with his gun in his back" when officers from neighboring Midlothian got there early Sunday.

Midlothian Police Chief Daniel Delaney said that's when one of his officers "encountered a subject with a gun" and shot him, according to a statement given to the media.

But the "subject" was Roberson, not the suspect in the bar shooting.

On Tuesday, Illinois State Police issued a statement saying that "a Midlothian Police Officer encountered a subject in plain black clothing with no markings readily identifying him as a Security Guard, armed with a gun in the west parking lot."
advertisement empty complementary information "According to witness statements, the Midlothian Officer gave the armed subject multiple verbal commands to drop the gun and get on the ground before ultimately discharging his weapon and striking the subject," the statement said.

Roberson was holding a firearm he was licensed to carry. Other witnesses, and a lawsuit filed by Roberson's family, reportedly said he was wearing a hat emblazoned with the word "security."

"Everybody was screaming out 'Security!' " Harris told WGN. "And they still did their job, and saw a black man with a gun, and basically killed him."

Another witness, Jakia Woods, told member station WBEZ's Miles Bryan that Roberson was wearing an orange vest and the hat marked "security."

She said it was "absolutely clear" that he was a security guard.

Woods said that the Midlothian officer came out of the club's back door 창�궗�€� weapon drawn 창�궗�€� and ordered Roberson to "get on the ground."

"Before he says 'ground' he fires the first shot," she said, adding that she has not been interviewed by investigators.

Roberson was declared dead shortly after arriving at a hospital.
Four
others at the bar, including the shooting suspect, sustained non-life-threatening injuries, police said.

Delaney said that the Cook County Sheriff's Office and the Robbins Police Department were investigating the shooting.







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