[blind-democracy] Re: Deep seated prejudice and sloppy training

  • From: peter altschul <paltschul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 14:46:29 -0600

Police in Chicago seem to be more likely to engage in these cross-racial shootings. It is, IMHO, one of the reasons why the crime rate there is so much higher than other comparable cities.

Frustrating - and very sad.

And where's the NRA in all of this? Aren't they a gunsRights organization for everyone, or just white people.

Just asking.

Best, Peter



----- Original Message -----
From: Carl Jarvis <carjar82@xxxxxxxxx
To: blind-democracy <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Wed, 14 Nov 2018 08:14:05 -0800
Subject: [blind-democracy] Deep seated prejudice?, or sloppy training?

By the time this story is spun into the official police report, it
will never answer the question, Was the Officer so conditioned that he
shot the security guard while under the influence of deep seated
prejudices?  So much of our behavior is controlled by conditioned
responses, of which we are totally unaware.
Carl Jarvis
*****

EMILY SULLIVAN

Jemel Roberson and his 9-month-old son.

Avontea Boose via AP

Updated at 4 a.m.  ET on Wednesday

When police arrived after reports of a shooting over the weekend at a
bar outside Chicago, witnesses say Jemel Roberson, a 26-year-old
security guard who
worked there, had already subdued the alleged assailant in the parking
lot, pinning him to the ground.

Adam Harris, who was at Manny's Blue Bar in Robbins at the time of the
incident on Sunday,
told WGN-TV
that Roberson was holding "somebody on the ground with his knee in
his back, with his gun in his back" when officers from neighboring
Midlothian got there
early Sunday.

Midlothian Police Chief Daniel Delaney said that's when one of his
officers "encountered a subject with a gun" and shot him, according to
a statement given
to the media.

But the "subject" was Roberson, not the suspect in the bar shooting.

On Tuesday, Illinois State Police issued a statement saying that "a
Midlothian Police Officer encountered a subject in plain black
clothing with no markings
readily identifying him as a Security Guard, armed with a gun in the
west parking lot."
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"According to witness statements, the Midlothian Officer gave the
armed subject multiple verbal commands to drop the gun and get on the
ground before ultimately
discharging his weapon and striking the subject," the statement said.

Roberson was holding a firearm he was licensed to carry.  Other
witnesses, and a lawsuit filed by Roberson's family, reportedly said
he was wearing a hat
emblazoned with the word "security."

"Everybody was screaming out 'Security!' " Harris told WGN. "And they
still did their job, and saw a black man with a gun, and basically
killed him."

Another witness, Jakia Woods, told member station WBEZ's Miles Bryan
that Roberson was wearing an orange vest and the hat marked
"security."

She said it was "absolutely clear" that he was a security guard.

Woods said that the Midlothian officer came out of the club's back
door — weapon drawn — and ordered Roberson to "get on the ground."

"Before he says 'ground' he fires the first shot," she said, adding
that she has not been interviewed by investigators.

Roberson was declared dead shortly after arriving at a hospital. Four
others at the bar, including the shooting suspect, sustained
non-life-threatening
injuries, police said.

Delaney said that the Cook County Sheriff's Office and the Robbins
Police Department were investigating the shooting.



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