[blind-democracy] Re: Beyond Amnesty: The Battle Over Sex Work Decriminalization

  • From: Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:22:03 -0400

Yes, because I don't see how that can be done without hurting the
prostitutes. The problem is that society has always been tempted to use law
enforcement against what it considers to be vice, and it never works. When
police are involved, then usually bribery and gang violence follows. That
was true when we had prohibition of alcohol. It's true with our drug policy,
and it is also true when it comes to prostitution. I'm in favor of
decriminalizing the use of all drugs for precisely the same reason.

Miriam

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[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Hachey
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2015 8:48 AM
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Beyond Amnesty: The Battle Over Sex Work
Decriminalization

OK, so to clarify, you are against taking legal action against the clients
of prostitutes?
Bob

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[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 9:35 AM
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Beyond Amnesty: The Battle Over Sex Work
Decriminalization

Bob,

Actually, I agree with you. I was remembering our past discussions which
were based on an article that Chris hedges wrote. I agree that sex work
should be decriminalized. There is a distinction between decriminalizing an
activity and legalizing it and acdtually, that distinction is made in this
article. When sex workers talk about, I think they call it, the Nordic
solution, and say that they are opposed to that, it is that kind of
legalization that they are opposed to. It puts the power in the hands of
brothel operators. But I do agree absolutely withDoogan.

Miriam

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[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Hachey
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 6:44 AM
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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Beyond Amnesty: The Battle Over Sex Work
Decriminalization

Hi Miriam,
Thanks for sharing this one. Based on past discussions, you and I are on
opposite sides of this issue. I do believe that doogan and Cirkin have it
right here and that the best approach is to decriminalize this activity on
both sides of the street.
Perhaps what we do need are laws that put more limits on managers of
brothels such that the majority of the money earned by the prostitute is
kept by the prostitute. And, I'd continue to outlaw street pimps.
I think we can agree that we want to put an end to violence and children in
the sex trade. I was going to say we agree on the elimination of
exploitation, but I'm thinking that you believe that any kind of sex for
hire relationship is exploitation. . Would you argue that women like Doogan
have been exploited for so long that they do not see the error of their
opinions?
One of the great things about this list is that we can have intelligent
discussions about extremely emotional hot-button type issues and still
remain friends.
Bob Hachey





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