[blind-chess] Re: Chris, Re: Possible Spoiler, Problem WAC002

  • From: "Chris C." <cchaffin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 16:21:30 -0400

Hi Richard,

I apologize for the mistake, I misread the problem.
Even though my screen reader told me Rb3, for some reason I put it on b6, 
smiles.
Okay, I will take it a look over, and put my thoughts in another email.

Chris

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: R Dinger 
  To: blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 12:26 PM
  Subject: [blind-chess] Chris, Re: Possible Spoiler, Problem WAC002


  Hi Chris,

  Sorry I am slow in response, but I was gone all day Wednesday.

  I am having a little trouble following your approach as your first move is:
  1... Rb3, which is where you already are, so did you mean 1... Rb6 (other end 
of board?).

  But first let us step back and take a look at the problem in general.

  * The position is well blockaded on both sides.
  * Black has two passed Pawns, which are very powerful!
  * White must blockade the passed Pawns at all costs.
  * The Black D Pawn currently prevents White from moving to help the White 
Rook.

  Clearly, Black wants to get at least one of those passed Pawns to the first 
rank safely.

  IN general, most chess tactics are solved by looking for "forcing" moves.  
Forcing moves are those moves that limit your opponents response or force his 
reply.  Forcing is not always literal as crazy opponents can sometimes ignore 
your move, but in general moves like captures will be followed by recaptures in 
order to maintain equality in the game and moves like checks literally do force 
a response.

  So what are forcing moves?  The most common that come to mind are:
  * a check
  * a mate threat
  * a capture
  * a threat of capture

  So my advice for all of these combination problems is to first examine all 
checks and captures and other forcing moves to see what those moves "FORCE" the 
opponent to do in response.

  Richard
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Chris C. 
    To: blind-chess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:13 PM
    Subject: [blind-chess] Possible Spoiler, Problem WAC002



    Okay... first thoughts:

    1. Knowing that it would be very difficult to mate with only a rook, you 
are looking to promote a pawn.
    At this moment, the best one for this is located on d3, but is highly 
guarded by whites rook.
    2. whites king is not able to move up any squares because of the pawn 
located on f5.  So he is trapped on rank 3 until he get to file h.
    3. whites rook is restricted to his movements... on current rank 2, files c 
to file g.  Has rank 1, but can only go higher than rank 2 on file g.
    4. Black definitely has control of more of white squares.

    With all said, this is what I was thinking...
    I first thought black should:
    1... Rd6
    2. Rd1  d2
    But this would restrict blacks rook to file d, because if he moves off of 
it, he would loose the pawn on d2 since there is no other way of protecting it.

    So I then came up with this.
    1. ... Rb3
    Now if played right, you should have at least one promoted pawn, and maybe 
your rook and a promoted pawn, or two promoted pawns.
    If you only get one promoted pawn out of it, then there is  a good 
possibility that the white rook is gone.
    And if the white rook is gone, then your promoted pawn can promote 
hopefully at least one more pawn to help you out.

    Not sure how to write things since white has different move choices.
    But I will try...

    2. not sure about white but black... c3
    3.1 If white Rxd3, then ... then cxb2
    or
    3.2 If white bxc3... then Rxc3

    from move3.1:
    4.1.1 Rxb3... axb3 
    or 
    4.1.2 Rd2... b1 = Q, promote pawn.
    or 
    4.1.3 if white moves rook anywhere else except for checking your king ... 
Rxa3

    From move 3.2:
    4.2.1  Rd1 Rxa2
    or
    4.2.2 Ra2Rxc2

    Sorry for the lengthy email, hope all of this makes sense.
    Just my first thoughts.

    Chris





    If white bxc3, then ... Rxc3



      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: R Dinger 
      To: chess 
      Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:27 AM
      Subject: [blind-chess] Problem WAC002


      Good Morning Puzzlers,

      This problem is from Mario Lang's puzzle web page at 
http://delysid.org:80/chess/epd.cgi

       and is reported to be from Fred Reinfield's book "Win At Chess" 1958.

      Problem WAC002
      
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      Black to move

      FEN Problem Setup:
      8/
      7p/
      5k2/
      5p2/
      p1p2P2/
      Pr1pPK2/
      1P1R3P/
      8
       b - - 0 1

      Short Algebraic Problem Setup:
      White: Kf3, Rd2, Pa3, Pb2, Pe3, Pf4, Ph2
      Black: Kf6, Rb3, Pa4, Pc4, Pd3, Pf5, Ph7



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