[bksvol-discuss] Re: now asking about asterisks on this strand: a question about tables
- From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:48:54 -0700 (PDT)
Sorry I'm confused you. :-) No, using one to hold the blank line and 2 before
footnotes is just what I'm doing with this book. There is no set number. In the
past I've used three asterisks, but one is probably best for those who need
them--less clutter.
Cindy
--- On Fri, 7/11/08, Devorah Greenstein <DGreenstein@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Devorah Greenstein <DGreenstein@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] now asking about asterisks on this strand: a
> question about tables
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 2:59 PM
> I'm not sure I understand what you mean, G. Cindy.
> I like the idea of asterisks to hold line spaces between
> sections. I
> have not done that, sorry to say. It will be a new habit
> when I
> understand it better.
>
> But I'm uncertain about what the bksvol convention is.
>
> So, am I right about this? One line between sections with
> an asterisk to
> hold the line, and then two asterisks (two lines) before
> the footnote?
> Is this what we are considering the best thing to do? Sorry
> if I have
> missed crucial emails; my reading has been sporadic because
> I'm
> traveling a lot.
>
> Thanks for explaining this,
> Devorah
>
>
> Text
> Text
> Text
> Text
> Etc.
> *
> New section name
> *
> Text
> Text
> Text
> Etc.
> *
> *
> footnote
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Grandma Cindy
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:06 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: a question about tables
>
> Hi, Amy.
>
> The "lots of spaces" won't work any better
> than the tab, I've since
> learned--one space only, or you can use dashes. You can
> probably do a
> global Replace to replace however many spaces you used with
> either a
> couple of dashes or just one space. One space is all I use
> now when
> doing Tables of Contents.
>
> For double spacing of lines, we put asterisks in the empty
> line.
> Apparently this tells the blind readers that a space was
> skipped. For a
> while I was doing both, just because I find it difficult
> not to double
> or triple space when the print book does,and I was also
> putting in an
> asterisk, but I've bowed to the convention. In the book
> I'm validating
> now I'm putting one asterisk where there's a space
> between sections in
> the text, and two on the line above the footnote. Lissi
> just posted that
> she puts what she does with asterisks for blank line before
> the text,
> and since there is a blank page in my book before the text,
> I put such
> an explanatory note in brackets there.
>
> I'm still changing the footnotes into a smaller font,
> even though it
> won't make a difference to a blind reader.
>
> Cindy
> >
> > One problem I did not resolve and don't know how
> the
> > validater will resolve is the double-spacing of lines
> which
> > end with a return. Do you know if the Bookshare
> computers
> > have fixed that or will the indices and other odd
> places
> > end up with strange double-spacing. This had two
> columns
> > of nouns separated by space with page numbers
> following
> > each line of people, places or things
> >
> > Amy
> > omsm
> >
> > --
> > It if be now, 'tis not to come,
> > If it be not to come, it will be now,
> > If it be now now, Yet it will come.
> > The readiness is all.
> > Wm. Shakespeare
> > -------------- Original message from Grandma Cindy
> > <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>: --------------
> >
> > I'll have to try that next time. Do I understand
> you
> > properly Jake? I can scan a table that's in a book
> and
> > it will OCR as a table? Then why are they not turning
> out
> > properly in books that people are scanning? Why do
> they ask
> > to have me do
> > > something with them?
> > > G.Cindy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Sun, 7/6/08, Jake Brownell wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Jake Brownell
> > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: a question
> about
> > tables
> > > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Date: Sunday, July 6, 2008, 5:30 PM
> > > > Hi Devorah,
> > > >
> > > > It looks like lots of people have already
> given
> > you good
> > > > advice. I'll just add that you can use
> an
> > actual
> > > > "table" that a word processor
> would
> > use. For
> > > > example the tables that Microsoft Word will
> make
> > under the
> > > > Table menu are converted into DAISY tables,
> which
> > may add
> > > > extra navigation features.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > > Jake
> > > >
> > > > Jake Brownell
> > > > QA Engineer, Bookshare.org
> > > > jake.b@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Devorah Greenstein
> > > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 5:50 PM
> > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] a question about
> > tables
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Folks,
> > > >
> > > > I know there have been discussions about
> tables
> > and
> > > > I'm sorry I don't remember what was
> said.
> > The
> > > > well-scanned book I'm validating has an
> > occasional
> > > > table. One table, for example, has three
> columns
> > and seven
> > > > rows. But some spaces are empty. I mean the
> left
> > hand
> > > > column has five entries, the middle column
> has
> > seven
> > > > entries. I'm working with a copy of the
> > printed book
> > > > because there are lots of symbols in the
> book,
> > and tarot
> > > > card layouts and other diagrams.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have to re-type this table anyway,
> because I
> > can't
> > > > straighten it out as is. But as a sighted
> > volunteer, I
> > > > don't know what the best way to do it
> is. Can
> > someone
> > > > send me a written example? Or give me some
> hints?
> > I thought
> > > > maybe I need to do a bracketed validator
> note
> > explaining
> > > > that it's a three column table, name the
> > column
> > > > headings, sort of narrate through the table.
>
> > > >
> > > > Or should I just retype the table and
> maybe put
> > dashes
> > > > between the columns? It's all words and
> > names.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'd love to hear suggestions.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Devorah
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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