[bksvol-discuss] Re: "not quite ready for prime time list"
- From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:19:35 -0700 (PDT)
There is a textbook and educational materials category
Cindy
--- Mike and Lori Castner <mandlcastner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> Maybe more people would do text books if they were
> identified as sutch.
> Would they get more attention if we had a text book
> category?
> Mike
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 8:16 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: "not quite ready for
> prime time list"
>
>
> > That's another angle I hadn't thought of, so
> thanks for pointing that out.
> > Adding more complexity is something to be avoided.
> I am recalling the
> > recent thread on protecting chapter headers. Even
> some old hands had
> > apparently forgotten how it is supposed to be
> done. New validators already
> > have enough to learn. Increasing the number of
> validators will ultimately
> > do more to grow the collection faster, including
> getting hard books such
> > as textbooks into the collection, than adding more
> complexity to the
> > process.
> >
> > Evan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 5:50 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: "not quite ready for
> prime time list"
> >
> >
> >> Well, I am going to say two more things on this
> subject, probably both
> >> of which I shouldn't. First of all, I think that
> at this point those
> >> of us who are needing textbooks are aware that we
> will spend some wait
> >> time on them.
> >>
> >> Second, I think it is a wonderful thing to
> validate; but I think you
> >> have to set priorities and do the best you can
> and not worry about the
> >> rest. That's not to say don't do a good job or
> the best you can, but
> >> if you can't get them all done when you need to,
> you can't. I scan
> >> textbooks and, though I've not submitted any, I
> treat them as if I am
> >> going to submit them and probably will one day.
> It is much harder to
> >> do books that are not interesting to you, but you
> elect to do that.
> >> You take pride in your work; and I know that your
> pride shines through
> >> when people read your work. However, it doesn't
> take that long to go
> >> to the site and renew a book that you can't
> finish--less time than it
> >> takes to download for pleasure. Please don't try
> to create more and
> >> more rules, more and more lists. You have people
> signing on as
> >> volunteers all the time. You add volume to what
> has to be learned
> >> already, and you will have people overwhelmed by
> what they see and
> >> they won't bother to sign up. If you want
> validation to be an
> >> exclusive club, then this would be one way to
> make that happen.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Cindy Lou Ray. Each day is a new adventure.
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 4:04 AM
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: "not quite ready
> for prime time list"
> >>
> >>
> >> Below find another response to the validating of
> textbooks
> >> issue. Evan do you validate text books?
> >>
> >> E.
> >>
> >>
> >> At 10:55 PM 9/2/2007, you wrote:
> >>>I don't think five books is an onerous
> restriction. If a book needs
> >>>missing pages or whatever, there are four other
> books to work on.
> >>>That is plenty. It only takes a few seconds to
> renew a book.
> >>>
> >>>Evan
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "E."
> <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 12:34 PM
> >>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] "not quite ready for
> prime time list"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I suggest that the list be used for only limited
> reasons. Anyone
> >>>>"kicking back" a book to the list must meet one
> of the criteria.
> >>>>
> >>>>Criteria may include things like
> >>>>getting missing pages from another volunteer
> >>>>getting explanation of diagrams from another
> volunteer
> >>>>working on charts in book and need a week's
> break
> >>>>
> >>>>The list will allow people who have taken on
> several difficult
> >>>>books to validate something short or easy or
> diverting and come back
> >>>>refreshed.
> >>>>
> >>>>The list will protect books which truly are
> being worked on.
> >>>>
> >>>>Before the five book limit, the list was not
> necessary.
> >>>>
> >>>>The five book limit has been great at curbing
> many situations and
> >>>>streamlining validating in many ways.
> >>>>
> >>>>The five book limit is a limit in a way which
> will be addressed by
> >>>>the "not quite ready for prime time list".
> >>>>
> >>>>Some of us are validating several large
> textbooks because the
> >>>>submitters know we can fix dates by actually
> reading most of the
> >>>>book.
> >>>>
> >>>>Date fixing includes
> >>>>13 22 equals 1322
> >>>>153O equals 1530
> >>>>and others. I have worked out all kinds of find
> searches for dates
> >>>>but still it means reading much of a book.
> >>>>I know a solution is to take on less. I am
> suggesting the list as
> >>>>another alternative.
> >>>>
> >>>>The act of validating is easy enough and I can
> do it reading
> >>>>something short for leisure. It is making sure
> my books can stay
> >>>>mine while I take a break which concerns me.
> The list is just a
> >>>>way of perhaps helping burn out among
> validators.
> >>>>
> >>>>
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