Dear Lissi, I don't think Grace's comments were made with you in mind--most likely with me, since I'm the one who usually complains because I'd have like the chance to fix the books--especially since not all of them have anything else wrong with then. The last 4 have been almost perfect scans, the only thing wrong being that hard page breaks weren't there and sometimes page numbers were missing. But I've learned a lot about Native American wisdom and philosophy, and some history. Anyway, I've come to know Grace through her posts and some private correspondence and I'm not offended at all. Cindy --- Estelnalissi <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Dear Grace and Mickey, > > Mickey, I'm sorry I spoke up on rejecting books > without knowing the rules. > Anyway, I think you understood I meant no criticism. > It just boils down to > the fact that if something on the step one page > appeals to me, I'll validate > it for the fun of it, not for credit, but just > because it's there and I like > it and don't have the right equipment to scan for > myself. > > I appreciate your clarification on Bookshare's > guidelines for rejecting > books, Grace. I admit I'm impatient with reading all > of the information I > should. I know enough to prepare validations, but I > have a one track mind > and validation is all I really care about. With that > in mind, I really > shouldn't comment on topics I don't know enough > about. In this case, not > having done my homework, I realize I was expressing > an opinion not well > grounded in fact. Now I'm better informed. > > Always with love, > > Lissi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Silvara" <silvara@xxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 7:25 PM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: comments on rejecting > > > > Dear Volunteers: > > > > > > > > I am writing to tell you about a pet peeve of > mine. I have noticed that > > every time someone posts that they've rejected a > book, there's always > > emails in response saying that the person > shouldn't have. Speaking for > > myself, I do not reject a book lightly. If I > really don't feel like > > dealing with the book I release it. I only reject > books that I feel would > > take less time to rescan. Some might say that the > collection loses out on > > a potential gem. I will argue that if said book is > that important someone > > will take the time to rescan it. > > > > > > > > As for rejecting books due to lack of page breaks, > doing so is following > > bookshare policy. It has been 1 year since > Bookshare has instituted the > > policy of page breaks. In my opinion that's > plenty of time for submitters > > to learn to follow the rules. Validators spending > many hours adding page > > breaks is setting a bad precedent for submitters. > They don't follow the > > rules and yet their books still get accepted. > Remember submitters get the > > major credit for submitting the books and yet > conscientious validators get > > the grunt work and little to show for it. > > > > > > > > Frankly I don't post on the list when I reject > books because of the > > negative responses over time. I don't enjoy > rejecting books at all. I > > only do when it's necessary. Additionally if the > reason for rejecting is > > not valid the admin kicks it back and says to > validate it. I have seen it > > happen before. Also, nothing prevents the > submitter from cleaning the book > > up and resubmitting it. . > > > > > > > > As Mickey stated all we want to do is a good job. > And in this case she was > > following Bookshare policy. > > > > > > > > Although some people may prefer quantity over > quality, the community does > > prefer quality over quantity on the aggregate, as > observed on a previous > > bookshare survey. This includes proper pagination > as well as clear > > readable text. Therefore spending countless hours > saving every book is not > > always the best way to use our valuable time. > Perhaps if less time was > > spent cleaning up scanning messes more books could > be added to the > > collection. > > > > > > > > This is my 2 cents worth for today, or perhaps > even the whole month. > > *grin* > > > > > > > > Grace > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "mickey" <micka@xxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 11:58 PM > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Just rejected > > > > > >>I get very confused. When I've released books > because they didn't have > >>page breaks, I was told I should have rejected > them. When I reject, I'm > >>told I should have kept. We need guidelines, > because either way I go, > >>someone figures I should have done it differently. > All I want to do is do > >>a good job. Maybe we can get Gustavo to put it > back, since I told him > >>what the reason was. > >> > >> Mickey > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 11:49 PM > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Just rejected > >> > >> > >>> Aah, Mickey. If you'd released it, I could have > taken > >>> it it. The book, at least in a couple of forms, > is > >>> available in my library systems, and it looks > like one > >>> I'd enjoy reading--and it's relatively short. > smile. > >>> > >>> Cindy > >>> > >>> --- mickey <micka@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi. I had to reject Rutland Place by Anne > Perry. > >>>> There were no detectable > >>>> page breaks. > >>>> > >>>> Good scan, too. > >>>> > >>>> Mickey > >>>> > >>>> Mickey Prahin > >>>> Phone: (614) 670-4011 > >>>> Check out Bob's new CD at > >>>> http://www.boballentrio.com > >>>> > >>>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank > Email to > >>>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the > subject > >>>> line. To get a list of available commands, put > the > >>>> word 'help' by itself in the subject line. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > __________________________________________________ > >>> Do You Yahoo!? > >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > >>> http://mail.yahoo.com > >>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email > to > >>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the > subject line. 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