[bksvol-discuss] Re: bksvol-discuss [pq books and page numbers]

  • From: "Nat Barrett" <hawaiianstar@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:48:49 -1000


Hi all,

I don't have anything really to add to the conversation except to put my opinion.

I'm appreciative of the PQ books. I've been using Bookshare for a long time and considering what I saw when I first started, I'm very thankful for the quality of books these days.

With that being said, I have to say I do wish some of the PQ books would not be one long page. I read majority of my Bookshare books using my Booksense. I'm learned to navigate the books with only one page by skipping through text paragraph by paragraph. But sometimes wanting to go back to a particular area to re-read something is hard. Normally I go by pages, but in the case of one long file, it's cumbersome. I hope one day we can figure something out. But, even if we don't, as mentioned, I do appreciate the publishers donating their books to the cause. (smile)

Take care all,
Natalie


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From: "Roger Loran Bailey" <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:56 PM
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: bksvol-discuss [pq books and page numbers]

I don't think those publisher quality books that match their ISBNs with Good Reads are intended to be just ebooks though. They are electronic files and we Booksharians use them as ebooks, but they are intended to be transmitted to the printing press and it is known how many pages there will be. They are still electronic files, though, and will not have page breaks. I think it is those page breaks that the Daisy books count as pages.

On 2/23/2012 11:23 PM, Ali Al-Hajamy wrote:
I don't know if that's always the case, though. When I am on Goodreads
and I look up the ISBN of the Bookshare edition of whatever book I'm
reading, the number of pages in the book match up, more or less, with
the number of pages listed on Goodreads. Sometimes books have no pages
at all and come in one long file, but most of the time these days, PQ
books have pages with numbers. So the pages are definitely there, but
I think her question refers to the fact that the  Bookshare site
doesn't recognize how many pages are in PQ books, even when they exist
in the book, and appear the same way as in books submitted by
volunteers. It seems as if small changes would need to occur on the
site, and that the publishers have nothing to worry about.

On 2/23/12, Roger Loran Bailey<rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>  wrote:
PQ books do not have page numbers because they do not come in pages.
They are electronic files. Each one is just one long electronic file
that when it is sent to the printer will be broken into pages as the
book is printed. The discussion of that problem has come up here before
and I think the conclusion is this. The publishers do not get a lot out
of donating their books in the first place. About the most they get out
of it is some public relations points. If too many restrictions were put
on them it is likely that they would just stop donating books. The lack
of page numbers is pretty minor even if it is an inconvenience, but it
is something that we need to put up with. As one long file, though, it
is similar to the book being printed on one long roll of paper without
it being cut into pages. When that roll is cut then you will have pages
and it is the printing press that determines where the cuts will be made.

On 2/23/2012 9:09 PM, Ixchel, Jackie (M.E) wrote:
Hi all,
I was wondering (and I'm sorry  if someone already brought this up) if
anyone else wonders/gets kind of annoyed or knows why PQ books don't
have page numbers in the book summary page. I don't know if this is
just me but I like to know how many pages a book has for my own
keeping and I've noticed PQ books don't have this. For example, Hex
Hall has no page numbers in the text of it and it doesn't say in the
summary. I am just curious. I also wonder if anything can be done for
page numbers to appear in the summary page at least.
Regards,
Jackie

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