[bksvol-discuss] Re: [bkend-of-line hyphens
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:08:57 -0700 (PDT)
Does it only delete end-of-line hyphens? I've proofed a lot of books where all
hyphens were deleted and I had to put them back in where they belonged--not a
problem, as spell-check caught any I missed while reading.
Cindy
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--- On Wed, 6/10/09, EVAN REESE <mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: EVAN REESE <mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Rejecting a great scan for too many page breaks
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 4:51 PM
> Replacing the hyphen ^p with nothing
> should join up the hyphenated word. But OpenBook does have
> an end of line hyphen feature that I believe should already
> be turned on. But if it isn't, turn it on and it may
> reduce--if not eliminate--end of line hyphens.
>
> Evan
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Peters" <rpet@xxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:16 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Rejecting a great scan for
> too many page breaks
>
>
> > Thank you for this. I'll try it.
> > I suppose that for hyphenated words, one would replace
> the hyphen ^p with nothing?
> > Robert
> >
> >
> >
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> >>>> "Lori Castner" <loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 6/10/2009 1:08 PM >>>
> > Robert and Evan,
> >
> > I suspected that the line ending character was the
> paragraph mark (caret+p
> > typed as pshift+6+p).
> >
> > I scan with openbook 7.02 and sometimes have this
> character entered through
> > a book and sometimes it does not show at all. I
> find that the problem
> > occurs less often with recotgnize columns turned
> on. I turn exact view (not
> > exact wording) off and still have the problem. I
> have used different
> > recognition engines with no effect.
> >
> > I now follow Mayrie's recommendation when I have
> converted the file to .rtf
> > and am editing in Word.
> >
> > In the find box type caret+p followed by the lower
> case letter a and in the
> > replace box space a. Be sure to tab to the more
> button and space then tab
> > to match case and check that. I shift tab back
> to replace all and enter.
> >
> > I follow this sequence with every lower case letter in
> the alphabet. After
> > a few books, the sequences take about five minutes.
> >
> > Also, Robert, in Openbook be sure to turn off
> despeckle, white on black and
> > language analyst. These features are on by
> default; turning them off will
> > greatly improve your scans.
> >
> > Cat Lover Lori
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "EVAN REESE" <mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:07 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Rejecting a great scan
> for too many page
> > breaks
> >
> >
> >> I used to use WordPerfect. I have to say here that
> I really liked that
> >> program. Anyway, the "hrt" you mention here is the
> hard return character,
> >> the ^p in MS Word, which is the paragraph symbol.
> I do not think you want
> >> to do a global search and replace to get rid of
> those, as your book would
> >> then become one very long paragraph. Somehow, you
> need to find out why your
> >> OCR software is putting those hard returns at the
> end of each line and get
> >> it to just put them at the ends of paragraphs in
> the book.
> >>
> >> Is there a setting in OpenBook that has something
> to do with respecting
> >> line endings in the book? If so, then you need to
> turn it off. If there is
> >> no such setting, then I'm not sure what you can
> do. I used to use OpenBook
> >> 7 about two years ago and I didn't have this issue
> come up.
> >>
> >> Evan
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Peters"
> <rpet@xxxxxxx>
> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:13 AM
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Rejecting a great
> scan for too many page
> >> breaks
> >>
> >>
> >>> Jamie,
> >>> These are instances in books I have scanned
> and had rejected; according
> >>> to Word Perfect 12.0, they are linebreaks
> [HRt] is the character it gives
> >>> me, and there is one at the end of each
> line. I do not have a Braille
> >>> display, and the rejection notes I have gotten
> on the four all said
> >>> linebreaks.
> >>> What is the method in Microsoft Word to get
> JAWS to tell me a linebreak
> >>> character is there so I could try a global
> replace?
> >>> I'm sorry to have so many questions; all my
> scanning in the past has just
> >>> been for me, and using a BookPort for the last
> several years to read
> >>> them. BookPort doesn't care about the
> linebreaks, but the Victor Streams
> >>> (which I just got) appears to, as it makes the
> reading jerky.
> >>> Robert
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>>>> Jamie Yates <mirxtech@xxxxxxxxx>
> 6/9/2009 7:24 PM >>>
> >>> Also, Robert, you might not be dealing with
> the ^l line break. You might
> >>> be
> >>> dealing with paragraph breaks at the end of
> each line, so that the text
> >>> looks like it does in the printed book.
> >>>
> >>> When I have seen that, what I have tried to do
> is determine if there are
> >>> 2
> >>> or more paragraph breaks ^p between the
> paragraphs. If so, I have changed
> >>> all instances of ^p^p^p to a qqq, or if there
> aren't usually 3 together
> >>> then
> >>> just the ^p^p to a qqq. Then I change single
> ^p to a space. Then I change
> >>> all the qqq back to ^p^p^p and I make sure to
> change all of the ^m to a
> >>> ^p^m^p because changing those gives you the
> blank lines before and after
> >>> hard page breaks.
> >>>
> >>> This will ONLY work if paragraphs are
> separated by at least two paragraph
> >>> breaks. If they aren't, you're better off
> rejecting the book than you are
> >>> trying to change only the correct ^p to a
> space.
> >>>
> >>> -- Jamie in Michigan
> >>> Currently Reading: False Prophet by Faye
> Kellerman
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