[bksvol-discuss] Re: Unreadable Text in RTF
- From: "Julie Morales" <mercy421@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 16:51:53 -0400
Hi, Monica. Well, that's encouraging, at least for me, to know that an
upgrade probably wouldn't change that. <smile> Take care.
Julie Morales
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From: "Monica Willyard" <plumlipstick@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 4:30 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Unreadable Text in RTF
For what it's worth, I'm running Jaws 7 and still have that
problem. I also have Jaws 5.10 on another machine, and they handle
the unreadable text in a similar manner. For that reason, I don't
think this is a version-specific issue with Jaws. I'm not a
programmer though, so I can't say what is going on in terms of video
cards, scripts, display modes and such.
Monica
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At Sunday 5/28/2006 02:01 PM, you wrote:
>Unfortunately, I'm using the one you don't have - version 5.10.
>
>Thanks.
>
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>From: <mailto:jabrown@xxxxxxxxx>Jake Brownell
>To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 10:19 AM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Unreadable Text in RTF
>
>Hi Evan,
> I've been drawing a blank for the last day or two... But I
> wonder if you might be using an older version of JAWS, I think you
> told me you were running something in the 5 series? I know that
> support for Rich text areas has been improved in later versions of
> JAWS and I can try and reproduce the problem to see if it's just your
> system.
>
> Arial 22pt font, in what program?
>
> I've got versions 5.0, 6.0, 6.2, 7.0 and the 7.1 beta on my
> laptop. I never did install 5.1 since it gave me major trouble on
> another machine.
> My main box only has the 6 series onward, and my older machine
> just got a fresh install of windows and so only has the 7 series.
>
>Jake
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>From: <mailto:mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>Evan Reese
>To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 5:19 PM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Unreadable Text in RTF
>
>I had to reject "The Sunborn" by Gregory Benford. It sounds like a
>great book - I like much of Benford's work - but the last page of
>text before the author's afterword was missing, and since I have
>corresponded with the submitter before, and he has submitted 349
>books successfully so far, I am sure it was just a goof, and not
>carelessness, and that it will be fixed up and back on Step One soon.
>
>But that's not what I am writing about. I sent an excerpt of the
>book to him so he could see what is missing, and in the excerpt is
>the beginning of an Afterword by Benford. The strange thing is,
>that I did not hear the title "Afterword" when I was reading the end
>of the book in .rtf format in Wordpad to see where the missing text
>was that a previous validator had mentioned. I only heard it after
>I checked the excerpt after I cut and pasted it into an email
>message. I then saved the .rtf file in .txt format, suspecting that
>the formatting or the font of the title was preventing it from
>talking somehow, and it was clearly spoken by JAWS in the .txt version.
>
>It actually gets a little stranger, because I brought up the same
>.rtf file in Word, and while JAWS doesn't speak the title if I just
>use left and right arrow and up and down arrow, if I use control
>right and left arrow, it will speak the title. I was able to check
>the font with the control-shift-f combo, and it is Ariel,
>22-point. But the title will not show up at all with any key
>combination when I try to read it in Wordpad.
>
>Sorry for going on so long, but I wanted to be clear about what is
>happening. So the question is: What is going on? I know that
>documents in Word's .doc format sometimes do not speak italic text
>correctly, but I haven't encountered this in an .rtf file. How can
>I reliably edit stuff in .rtf format if I cannot have confidence
>that JAWS is giving me the goods on what is in the file?
>
>I am troubled by this for obvious reasons, and would like to know
>how common this is, what kinds of text are not spoken by JAWS, and
>what I can do about it without saving everything in .txt format,
>which will not do for Bookshare submissions, will it?
>it?
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
>
>
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