I hate to sound sexist, but sometimes I think it's a woman thing. A lot of women I know have a problem judging distances and space accurately -- sighted women -- including me. It's a family joke at our house. None of the men I know have that problem. How about you men on the list? Cindy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com