[bksvol-discuss] Re: Soft Page Breaks (was: Re: Re: please more submits so I can proof read)

  • From: "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:45:38 -0700

That's exactly what I've been wondering, and I haven't even had to use word for the RTF problem with Kurzweil in quite a while. Jill ----- Original Message ----- From: "EVAN REESE" <mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx> 

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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Soft Page Breaks (was: Re: Re: please more submits so I can proof read) 



Hmmm, why not just edit in K1000, which does not insert soft page breaks?
Then you can avoid the whole soft page break frustration. I know you both
have it. What would you need to do in Word that you cannot do in K1000? The 
only thing I've used Word for lately is to ensure that Bookshare doesn't
choke on K1000's flavor of rtf.

Evan
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx> 
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Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:04 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: please more submits so I can proof read



Hi Ann,

In case it helps, you don't need to manually remove soft page
breaks. Those only have an effect when actually sending the book to a
printer.  I know it helps immensely not to have them to get an accurate
page
count.  Just thought I'd let you know that you don't need to remove them
unless you can't stand trying to figure out proper page count with them in 
the book.  I understand if they frustrate you.  They do me too, as I get
easily confused keeping count of hard page breaks among soft ones.

Mayrie



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ann Parsons
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 5:48 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: please more submits so I can proof read

Hi all,

Hmmm, I think rather than naming names, the better idea would be to ask
Pavi
if she could please speak with these particular volunteers and impress
upon
them that proofing is *not* a twenty-minute job. If it were, I would have submitted the book I'm doing now a week ago. As it is, this book requires 
removal of headers, replacement of page numbers at the top of the pages,
and
may require a sighted volunteer to look at the pages.  I have also
discovered that this book, even though I have changed the paper size to
Legal, has a huge number of soft page breaks which have to be removed.
This
is a tedious process.  If she could impress upon them that these things
need
to be done to these books, they will become better proofreaders. The most important thing is to reiterate that the *only* way to be sure that a book 
you are proofing is as free from errors as possible is to read it, yes,
read
every page, every word. That, IMO is the best way to get the best quality 
for Bookshare.

Now, I understand that people have selfish reasons for volunteering,
namely
racking up credit against their membership fee.  However, here's a nice
little statistic for you.  There are three hundred and sixty-five days in
a
year, except for leap Year.  You have to contribute twenty books in order
to
pay for your membership.  So, if you divide three hundred and sixty-five
by
twenty, you get eighteen and a bit. That's eighteen days, folks, eighteen 
days per book.  that is almost three weeks, folks.  There is absolutely
no,
good, reason, for proofing a book in twenty minutes, none at all.  Some
children's books may take a day. Some reference books may take six weeks. 
Most books should take two to three days at least!  I repeat, there is
absolutely no reason for twenty-minute proofing! You've got lots of time, 
lots of it, if you space out your books and you're careful about what
you're
doing.  So, I'd recommend that instead of naming names, Pavi be asked to
speak to these fol
ks and tell them how it is.  Tell them we're absolutely willing to help
them when they need it and to work with them to improve their work.  We
don't want to lose them. All we want is for them to improve what they are 
doing so that everyone benefits, not just the proofer or scanner who gets
the $2.50.  You're doing this so that others can read these books.  If
they
can't read the books, then all your work is for nothing.

Ann P.

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