[bksvol-discuss] Re: Soft Page Breaks (was: Re: Re: please more submits so I can proof read)
- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 07:14:01 -0700
HI Evan,
I do use K1000 for most things. Just thought Ann didn't want to or
couldn't use K1000. You're right though. K1000 doesn't have the soft page
break problem. I prefer doing almost all editing in K1000. There are a few
things that I do in Word, but that's just me.
Mayrie
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of EVAN REESE
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Soft Page Breaks (was: Re: Re: please more submits
so I can proof read)
Hmmm, why not just edit in K1000, which does not insert soft page breaks?
Then you can avoid the whole soft page break frustration. I know you both
have it. What would you need to do in Word that you cannot do in K1000? The
only thing I've used Word for lately is to ensure that Bookshare doesn't
choke on K1000's flavor of rtf.
Evan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:04 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: please more submits so I can proof read
> Hi Ann,
>
> In case it helps, you don't need to manually remove soft page
> breaks. Those only have an effect when actually sending the book to a
> printer. I know it helps immensely not to have them to get an accurate
> page
> count. Just thought I'd let you know that you don't need to remove them
> unless you can't stand trying to figure out proper page count with them in
> the book. I understand if they frustrate you. They do me too, as I get
> easily confused keeping count of hard page breaks among soft ones.
>
> Mayrie
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ann Parsons
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 5:48 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: please more submits so I can proof read
>
> Hi all,
>
> Hmmm, I think rather than naming names, the better idea would be to ask
> Pavi
> if she could please speak with these particular volunteers and impress
> upon
> them that proofing is *not* a twenty-minute job. If it were, I would have
> submitted the book I'm doing now a week ago. As it is, this book requires
> removal of headers, replacement of page numbers at the top of the pages,
> and
> may require a sighted volunteer to look at the pages. I have also
> discovered that this book, even though I have changed the paper size to
> Legal, has a huge number of soft page breaks which have to be removed.
> This
> is a tedious process. If she could impress upon them that these things
> need
> to be done to these books, they will become better proofreaders. The most
> important thing is to reiterate that the *only* way to be sure that a book
> you are proofing is as free from errors as possible is to read it, yes,
> read
> every page, every word. That, IMO is the best way to get the best quality
> for Bookshare.
>
> Now, I understand that people have selfish reasons for volunteering,
> namely
> racking up credit against their membership fee. However, here's a nice
> little statistic for you. There are three hundred and sixty-five days in
> a
> year, except for leap Year. You have to contribute twenty books in order
> to
> pay for your membership. So, if you divide three hundred and sixty-five
> by
> twenty, you get eighteen and a bit. That's eighteen days, folks, eighteen
> days per book. that is almost three weeks, folks. There is absolutely
> no,
> good, reason, for proofing a book in twenty minutes, none at all. Some
> children's books may take a day. Some reference books may take six weeks.
> Most books should take two to three days at least! I repeat, there is
> absolutely no reason for twenty-minute proofing! You've got lots of time,
> lots of it, if you space out your books and you're careful about what
> you're
> doing. So, I'd recommend that instead of naming names, Pavi be asked to
> speak to these fol
> ks and tell them how it is. Tell them we're absolutely willing to help
> them when they need it and to work with them to improve their work. We
> don't want to lose them. All we want is for them to improve what they are
> doing so that everyone benefits, not just the proofer or scanner who gets
> the $2.50. You're doing this so that others can read these books. If
> they
> can't read the books, then all your work is for nothing.
>
> Ann P.
>
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