Thanks, Jill. As a validator, I never knew that the rating I saw when I uploaded was an automatic one. I assumed it was from the submitter or the default rating given at the time of submission. How can the bookshare utility give a rating before the book uploading has been completed? G.Cindy --- Jill O'Connell <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Cindy, Actually when submitting a book, the > submitter gives it a rating. > When the validator uploads the book, that's when the > Bookshare utility gives > it a rating based, I assume, primarily on spelling > and scanning errors. At > that time the validator can upgrade the book and I > am told they can also > downgrade it. What some of us are suggesting is that > this same tool be used > at the time of submitting the book to help eliminate > this subjective > evaluation. Jill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 2:32 AM > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Using Our Validation > Resources Wisely > > > > Gary, > > > > As I understand it, it's up to the validator to > give > > the final quality rating. I've seen an automatic > Adult > > rating given, and validators have the option of > > changing it when they upload, but the only quality > > rating I've seen is the one put there when the > book is > > submitted, and the validator should change it if > it is > > not correct because of foreign names. smile > > > > G.Cindy > > --- Gary Petraccaro <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> If i'm understanding you, this might not work. > If > >> one uploaded a history > >> with lots of capitalized names, even if correct, > how > >> would that be rated? > >> Rise and Fall of the 3rd Reich comes up with > 95.94 > >> and 63xx unrecognized > >> names/words. Btw, I reversed the page numbers, > it > >> was 1615. <grin> > >> > >> I have no idea. > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 7:31 AM > >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Using Our > Validation > >> Resources Wisely > >> > >> > >> >I just rejected a history book submitted in kes. > >> The submitter did not old > >> >down the spine of the book resulting in > sentences > >> with chopped off words. > >> >When I brought it up in kurzweil it said it had > a > >> rank spelling rating of > >> >96%. I knew that included a lot of capitalized > >> names. I soon found the > >> >rating also included a lot of the word fragments > >> resulting from the binding > >> >not being held down enough. > >> > > >> > Perhaps the software can evaluate a book when > it > >> is updated. If the book's > >> > rating falls below some level of accuracy the > book > >> can be prevented from > >> > entering step 1 and be hand evaluated as I > >> suggested in another message. > >> > Folks whose books repeatedly need such > treatment > >> and who refuse to take > >> > input from others to improve ought to be asked > to > >> learn how to create > >> > better scans before submitting more. > >> > > >> > E. > >> > > >> > At 06:24 AM 11/24/2007, you wrote: > >> >>Hi Carrie, > >> >> > >> >> The computer rates the books when the > >> validator accepts them. > >> >> When the submitter submits a book, he/she > chooses > >> the rating for the > >> >> book, arbitrarily. I'd be thrilled if, when > >> submitting a book, the > >> >> computer would rate it, and in the case of > crummy > >> scans, just reject them > >> >> before they ever get submitted. > >> >> > >> >>Peace, > >> >>Mayrie > >> >> > >> >>At 09:56 PM 11/23/2007, you wrote: > >> >>>I thought that the computer rates it, and then > >> the uploader can change it > >> >>>if he/she wants to. Isn't that right? > >> >>> > >> >>>----- Original Message ---- > >> >>>From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > >> >>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >>>Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 6:44:02 PM > >> >>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Using Our > >> Validation Resources Wisely > >> >>> > >> >>>Mike, > >> >>> > >> >>>I don't think the cornputer (deliberate--I'm > >> feeling > >> >>>silly--I wonder what was in the stuffing; or I > >> could > >> >>>say my em key disappeared )rates the book when > >> it's > >> >>>uploaded after validation. Either the > submitter's > >> >>>rating stays because the validator doesn't > bother > >> to > >> >>>change it when uploading, which happens, or > the > >> >>>validator him/herself rates it. > >> >>> > >> >>>Carrie or someone can correct me if I'm wrong. > >> >>> > >> >>>G.Cindy > >> >>> > >> >>>--- Mike and Lori Castner > >> > >>>><<mailto:mandlcastner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>mandlcastner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >>>wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> > Hi Jamie, > >> >>> > I agree. Why can't they set things up so > the > >> >>> > computer rates the book the same way it > does > >> when > >> >>> > the validator is finished with it. It > would > >> make > >> >>> > things easier for the submitter of the book > >> and the > >> >>> > validator would have a better idea of how > >> rough the > >> >>> > book might be. > >> >>> > Mike > >> >>> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> >>> > From: Jamie Yates, CPhT > >> >>> > To: > >> > > > <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >>> > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 9:35 PM > >> >>> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Using Our > >> Validation > >> >>> > Resources Wisely > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > You cannot even submit a book unless you > >> check a > >> >>> > rating now. 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