If the book were given an automatic rating when submitted, then the validator would be alerted to the amount of scanos, extra characters etc. Depending on the equipment being used by the submitter, and especially if they don't actually read the book being scanned, they could be unaware of such problems and give their scan a higher rating than it warrants. Jill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 10:56 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Quality rating--when and by whom given
Thanks, Jill. As a validator, I never knew that the rating I saw when I uploaded was an automatic one. I assumed it was from the submitter or the default rating given at the time of submission. How can the bookshare utility give a rating before the book uploading has been completed? G.Cindy --- Jill O'Connell <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Cindy, Actually when submitting a book, the submitter gives it a rating. When the validator uploads the book, that's when the Bookshare utility gives it a rating based, I assume, primarily on spelling and scanning errors. At that time the validator can upgrade the book and I am told they can also downgrade it. What some of us are suggesting is that this same tool be used at the time of submitting the book to help eliminate this subjective evaluation. Jill----- Original Message ----- From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 2:32 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Using Our Validation Resources Wisely > Gary, > > As I understand it, it's up to the validator to give > the final quality rating. I've seen an automatic Adult > rating given, and validators have the option of > changing it when they upload, but the only quality > rating I've seen is the one put there when the book is > submitted, and the validator should change it if it is > not correct because of foreign names. smile > > G.Cindy > --- Gary Petraccaro <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> If i'm understanding you, this might not work. If >> one uploaded a history >> with lots of capitalized names, even if correct, how >> would that be rated? >> Rise and Fall of the 3rd Reich comes up with 95.94 >> and 63xx unrecognized >> names/words. Btw, I reversed the page numbers, it >> was 1615. <grin> >> >> I have no idea. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 7:31 AM >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Using Our Validation >> Resources Wisely >> >> >> >I just rejected a history book submitted in kes. >> The submitter did not old >> >down the spine of the book resulting in sentences >> with chopped off words. >> >When I brought it up in kurzweil it said it had a >> rank spelling rating of >> >96%. I knew that included a lot of capitalized >> names. I soon found the >> >rating also included a lot of the word fragments >> resulting from the binding >> >not being held down enough. >> > >> > Perhaps the software can evaluate a book when it >> is updated. If the book's >> > rating falls below some level of accuracy the book >> can be prevented from >> > entering step 1 and be hand evaluated as I >> suggested in another message. >> > Folks whose books repeatedly need such treatment >> and who refuse to take >> > input from others to improve ought to be asked to >> learn how to create >> > better scans before submitting more. >> > >> > E. >> > >> > At 06:24 AM 11/24/2007, you wrote: >> >>Hi Carrie, >> >> >> >> The computer rates the books when the >> validator accepts them. >> >> When the submitter submits a book, he/she chooses >> the rating for the >> >> book, arbitrarily. I'd be thrilled if, when >> submitting a book, the >> >> computer would rate it, and in the case of crummy >> scans, just reject them >> >> before they ever get submitted. >> >> >> >>Peace, >> >>Mayrie >> >> >> >>At 09:56 PM 11/23/2007, you wrote: >> >>>I thought that the computer rates it, and then >> the uploader can change it >> >>>if he/she wants to. Isn't that right? >> >>> >> >>>----- Original Message ---- >> >>>From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> >> >>>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>>Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 6:44:02 PM >> >>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Using Our >> Validation Resources Wisely >> >>> >> >>>Mike, >> >>> >> >>>I don't think the cornputer (deliberate--I'm >> feeling >> >>>silly--I wonder what was in the stuffing; or I >> could >> >>>say my em key disappeared )rates the book when >> it's >> >>>uploaded after validation. Either the submitter's >> >>>rating stays because the validator doesn't bother >> to >> >>>change it when uploading, which happens, or the >> >>>validator him/herself rates it. >> >>> >> >>>Carrie or someone can correct me if I'm wrong. >> >>> >> >>>G.Cindy >> >>> >> >>>--- Mike and Lori Castner >><<mailto:mandlcastner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>mandlcastner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> >>>wrote: >> >>> >> >>> > Hi Jamie, >> >>> > I agree. Why can't they set things up so the >> >>> > computer rates the book the same way it does >> when >> >>> > the validator is finished with it. It would >> make >> >>> > things easier for the submitter of the book >> and the >> >>> > validator would have a better idea of how >> rough the >> >>> > book might be. >> >>> > Mike >> >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> > From: Jamie Yates, CPhT >> >>> > To: >> ><mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> >>> > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 9:35 PM >> >>> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Using Our >> Validation >> >>> > Resources Wisely >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > You cannot even submit a book unless you >> check a >> >>> > rating now. It keeps tripping me up because I >> think >> >>> > it's in a different place than I'm used to >> looking >> >>> > for it. >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > Jamie in Michigan >> >>> > Currently Reading - When Santa Fell to Earth >> by >> >>> > Cornelia Funke >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>____________________________________________________________________________________>> >>>Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. >><http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs>http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs>> >>>To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email >> to >><mailto:bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> >>>put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the >> subject line. To get a list >> >>>of available commands, put the word 'help' by >> itself in the subject line. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>Be a better sports nut! 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