[bksvol-discuss] Re: OT:Geniuses with psychiatric conditions

  • From: "k4zq" <k4zq@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 23:43:12 -0400

Amy,''
Just as a general point of info, Lord Randolph suffered from Syphilis, which eventually resulted in madness.


Peace,
Ernie
----- Original Message ----- From: "Amy Goldring Tajalli" <agoldringtajalli@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Bi-polar is a recent term for what used to be called manic-depression or manic-depressive psychosis. Not all people who suffer from depression are bi-polar or, for that matter, psychotic. Many people who suffer from depression are neurotic and can be treated quite well with a totally different group of drugs or, in some cases, with therapy without drugs though the length of time involved with such therapy varies. The drugs involved in both types can facilitate therapy but with bi-polar psychosis they often work with
without the need of long term, indepth analysis or therapy but are often needed throughout one's lifetime.


None of these comments are meant as judgemental as in both cases we are talking about medical and psycological terminology and not moral or ethical judgements. The concepts of neurosis and psychosis had taken on societal connotations which were totally invalid but were hard to escape. I write this in the belief that the perfectionists reading this have escaped those connotations.

I would.be interested in those working on the Churchill biographies could tell me from which form the different family members suffered. I had thought that Winston only suffered from the neurotic form whereas Randolf had the bi-polar form which included delusions but as I have not read the biographies I really don't know.

Amy
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----- Original Message ----- From: "k4zq" <k4zq@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 1:27 PM
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Elizabeth,

I have a certain fascination with M. Churchill, and I think you were right.

He did suffer from deep depression which he called his "black dog." For that reason, he would not stay on a high floor in a hotel, for fear he would jump.

Btw, I just installed Kurzweil, and of course, it isn't right.
Thinking of giving this whole computer system away to a particularly deserving fundamentalist.


Peace,
Ernie
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Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 11:11 AM
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I did not the Churchill diagnosis was bipolar. Thought it was periods of profound depression. Interesting.

Did you include Byron on your list? I forget. Also, Mary Lamb or Charles and Mary Lamb fame lived with bipolar.
E.


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