Did I remember correctly that you are using window-eyes as your screen reader? There is a trick for making some characters with jaws, but if one exists for window-eyes I don't know it. Here is something that might help anyone who needs to make characters with accent marks as well as some other stuff. Sorry em-dashes aren't ASCII characters at all, but are ANSI, and therefore can not be made in the same way. The web address below is a list of ASCII characters and the directions and number you need to type to create them. You can also just copy the character yu need from the list once you locate the desired character. http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity/ascii.txt If it's sloppy or anything else is wrong with the list you can blame me, since i created it for my own use. :-) I'm leaving the list right after I send this message, so bye to everyone for the next 2 weeks. Sarah Van Oosterwijck http://home.earthlink.net/~netentity