[bksvol-discuss] I'm curious: Why do you delete what you validated?

  • From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 15:59:30 -0700 (PDT)

Sue and Susan,

I'm curious. If you've spent all that time validating
and making books you want to read Excellent, why do
you delete them and then download them in braille? Is
it that you cannot convert the rtf files into Braille?
What do you use to validate?

Cindy

--- siss52 <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> Hi Evan,
> Nope, I only validate, don't have a scanner.  So
> after they are admin 
> approved I delete them and download the .brf book. 
> You see,  I'm the kind 
> of validator who reads the book through.
> 
> Sue S.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Evan Reese
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 6:51 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: section breaks to page
> breaks
> 
> 
> Surely, you keep your old scanned files, or those of
> books you've validated? 
> I always keep mine.
> 
> Evan
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: siss52
>   To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:55 AM
>   Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: section breaks to
> page breaks
> 
> 
> 
>   All of my files have been approved so I will have
> to wait for Carrie's 
> next batch if all of hers have been taken.
> 
>   Sue S.
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Evan Reese
>   To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 3:22 AM
>   Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: section breaks to
> page breaks
> 
> 
>   No, you don't. Just find any old rtf file you have
> with page breaks in it, 
> then change them to section breaks and back again.
> Just don't save the file 
> when you're done, to be on the safe side. Or make a
> backup copy and put it 
> in a different folder before you start. I would do
> both, that way you can 
> play with the file without anxiety.
> 
>   But if you want to wait for a file with section
> breaks in it from the 
> start, then just wait for Carrie's next batch of
> submissions, which won't be 
> long.
> 
>   Evan
> 
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>     From: siss52
>     To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:52 AM
>     Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: section breaks to
> page breaks
> 
> 
> 
>     I am eager to try this, but now I have to find a
> RTF book with section 
> breaks.  (smile)
> 
>     Sue S.
> 
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>     From: Carrie Karnos
>     To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>     Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:57 AM
>     Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: section breaks to
> page breaks
> 
> 
>     I'm not used to using keystrokes, but I think
> this sequence should 
> change all section breaks to page breaks.
>     Open up a .rtf file that has section breaks in
> it.
>     Type control-F to get to the find command.
>     Type alt-P to get to the replace command.
>     (you're already positioned at the From field)
>     Type ^b (section break)
>     Type the tab key (to get to the To field)
>     Type ^m (page break)
>     Type alt-A for replace all (global replace)
> 
>     Could you please try this, and see if it works? 
> It seemed to work for 
> me.
> 
>     Thanks, Carrie
> 
>     siss52 <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>       Carrie,
> 
>       I have v2002.  Now do you use control f for
> find and replace instead 
> of control h for search and replace?  I do not see
> from, to, and global, but 
> I have been doing search and replace.  Could you
> give more details please? 
> Gerald couldn't figure it out for me.
> 
>       Thanks,
> 
>       Sue S.
> 
>       ----- Original Message ----- 
>       From: Carrie Karnos
>       To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>       Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:02 AM
>       Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: section breaks
> to page breaks
> 
> 
>       In my version of Microsoft Word (MS Word 2002
> SP3), if you go to the 
> Find or Replace command, and click on More, and then
> click on Special, you 
> can see the list of special characters it
> recognizes. Section break is ^b, 
> page break is ^m, and column break is ^n.  To change
> section breaks to page 
> breaks, put ^b in the From field, ^m in the To
> field, and click on Global 
> replace.  Works every time for me.  What version of
> Word do you use, Sue? 
> I'm amazed that it doesn't work for you.  Do you get
> an error message?  Sure 
> would be nice if we could figure this out.
> 
>       Carrie
> 
>       siss52 <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>         Hi Lisa,
> 
>         Well, I haven't been able to validate
> Carrie's submissions because I
>         thought the code for page breaks was ^m.
> That did not work, so I 
> have
>         always had to release them back to Step 1.
> So the code is really ^n? 
> Wow!
>         If that is true, no wonder Word would not
> replace the section 
> breaks.
> 
>         Sue S.
> 
>         ----- Original Message ----- 
>         From: "Lisa Belville"
>         To:
>         Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 9:15 PM
>         Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: section breaks
> to page breaks
> 
> 
>         Hi, E. and anyone else who needs the info.
> 
>         Here's what I do using Word 2002.
> 
>         First, I verify how many section breaks
> there are because the number 
> of
>         section breaks should convert exactly to
> page breaks when the find 
> and
>         replace is finished. I just use Control+end
> to go to the end of the 
> file to
>         do this.
> 
>         Then I go to the find and replace dialog
> with Control+H and type in 
> ^b (for
>         those who aren't using their screen reader
> punctuation, this is 
> karat plus
>         the lower case b with no spaces.), in the
> find box and ^n (karat 
> plus the
>         lower case n with no spaces)in the replace
> box and tab to Replace 
> all and
>         press enter. A dialog pops up saying that
> word has made X 
> replacements.
>         This is why I check before hand. If the new
> page breaks are the same 
> as the
>         section breaks, I save the file and go on to
> validating.
> 
>         Oh, and the karat is made by pressing
> shift+6 on the numbers row.
> 
>         Hope this helps.
> 
>         Lisa
> 
>         ----- Original Message ----- 
>         From: "E."
>         To:
>         Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 8:54 PM
>         Subject: [bksvol-discuss] section breaks to
> page breaks
> 
> 
>         > Will somebody please post how to change
> section breaks to page
>         > breaks in Word. I had the info but lost
> it. This time I will make 
> a
>         > separate note somewhere.
>         >
>         > E.
>         > At 08:24 PM 7/14/2007, you wrote:
>         >>Hi Everyone, warning this is going to be
> long.
>         >>
>         >>it has been well a couple of weeks since I
> could actually post 
> something
>         >>meaningful on the list. The summer is
> definitely not turining out 
> the way
>         >>i
>         >>planned.
>         >>
>         >>First of all, the convention was a blast.
> Pratik and I attended 
> the Users
>         >>group which was a lot of fun, and I also
> got to talk to John Glass 
> and
>         >>check
>         >>out his Icon, love the design much better
> than the Brailleplus, 
> but alas
>         >>the
>         >>Braille Plus is available on Quota funds,
> and I am afraid will 
> make more
>         >>money than the Icon.
>         >>
>         >>I didn't run into Kelly Heartman though,
> and regret that. Was 
> kicking
>         >>myself as I was flying on the plane that I
> hadn't sent my cell 
> number out,
>         >>and at the hotel couldn't access the
> stupid wireless network.
>         >>
>         >>Sigh.
>         >>
>         >>But it was a blast, and a lot of fun.
> Presentations were great, 
> and I had
>         >>fun, won some doggy related prizes, spent
> too much money in the 
> Exhibit
>         >>hall
>         >>as I always do, smile. But john is a real
> honest to goodness 
> person,
>         >>smile,
>         >>and I am excited by the changes that are
> being made.
>         >>
>         >>I do have some bittersweet news too. As of
> August 12, Judson will 
> no
>         >>longer
>         >>be a guide dog.
>         >>
>         >>I have had him now for seven years, and
> absolutely adore him. But 
> Boston,
>         >>has not been kind to him, and my work is
> very challenging. He 
> hasn't
>         >>walked
>         >>truly fast for a couple of years but I
> adjusted my stride to his, 
> and we
>         >>worked through alll the doggy things, and
> finally clicked as a 
> true team,
>         >>about two years ago.
>         >>
>         >>I filled out an application in April, as I
> wanted another golden 
> retriever
>         >>for the next dog. They said it might be a
> year's wait which was 
> fine, but
>         >>if they contacted me sooner would I go.
> The answer was yes, as my 
> dog has
>         >>been a great one, but he doesn't enjoy
> working particularly my 
> long days
>         >>in
>         >>Chelsea.
>         >>
>         >>Well.... I have a class date, it is August
> 12, in the Oregon class 
> at
>         >>Guide
>         >>Dogs for the Blind.
>         >>
>         >>Judson does have a great home lined up,
> and I have been crying off 
> and on
>         >>for the last two weeks since I found out.
> On July 5, we celebrated 
> our
>         >>seventh Anniversary, and I knew then that
> he was retiring. he is 
> my first
>         >>guide, and I know I will work through
> this.
>         >>
>         >>But I will let the list know what pup I
> get, what gender, and 
> whether a
>         >>lab,
>         >>golden, or a goldador, smile, when I know
> which will be August 13.
>         >>
>         >>Judson is going to live with my mother in
> Pennsylvania. She is 
> coming up
>         >>to
>         >>pick him up in August.
>         >>
>         >>Honestly I think Boston was a great thing
> for him. He showed a 
> desire to
>         >>work, and a spark of understanding which
> was impressive, smile. I 
> have
>         >>learned a ton from this dog, and I know he
> has taught me patience, 
> and
>         >>love,
>         >>and consideration of my dog's feelings and
> concerns.
>         >>
>         >>So.... It is going to be a hectic summer,
> and with a lot of 
> feelings,
>         >>both,
>         >>sad, joyous, bittersweet, anxious, and
> everything in between.
>         >>
>         >>I am also working at our summer Program
> for students called 
> CarrollKids,
>         >>and
>         >>have been in Newton since last Sunday, i
> got part of today, Sunday 
> and
>         >>Monday off, and have to be back for the
> rest of the week on 
> Tuesday. The
>         >>program is fun, and I have a lot of time
> in the evenings for 
> reading
>         >>books,
>         >>as there is no television and we are
> sharing computers!
>         >>
>         >>But I get done with CarrollKids on August
> 9 and fly off to Oregon 
> on the
>         >>12.
>         >>
>         >>Sigh.
>         >>
>         >>So if you all need to contact me, write me
> privately and I will 
> try to
>         >>answer. smile.
>         >>
>         >>TTYL.
>         >>
>         >>Shelley L. Rhodes M.A., VRT, CTVI
>         >>and Judson, guiding golden
>         >>juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>         >>Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
>         >>Graduate Alumni Association Board
>         >>www.guidedogs.com
>         >>
>         >>More than Any other time, When i hold a
> beloved book in my hand, 
> my
>         >>limitations fall from me, my spirit is
> free.
>         >>- Helen Keller
>         >>
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