Hello Pratik, It does appear that this was published as one book including both of the original works. Cindy is getting a copy and will work with me on making some of the corrections. It is a good scan over all but does have some quirkiness in it. Anyways it's a good book to read and start working with as I get on with the second third of my life:) -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pratik Patel Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 11:39 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: How to Win Friends and Influence People Kaitlyn, If you're validating a book that contains both in the same volume, then please check with Gustavo. I'm surprised that the volume itself does not contain a copyright date. Is there an ISBN number for the volume? If so, please let us know. We'd be happy to do theresearch and find out what is the general copyright date. Pratik -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gerald Hovas Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 2:13 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: How to Win Friends and Influence People Kaitlyn, There is a later copyright date than 1981 in the section that Pratik said to feel free to ignore because it is not relevant. It is my understanding that the copyright information on 'HOW TO STOP WORRYING AND START LIVING' would be relevant since both of the books mentioned in the copyright information are included in your book and that 1984 should be used since it is the later date. Perhaps you should check with Gustavo to see which date should be used. Gerald -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Pratik Patel Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 9:59 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: How to Win Friends and Influence People Kaitlyn, While I'm not Cindy, I'll answer your questions as best as I can with the information you've given us. This copyright page tells you that the book was first published and copyrighted in the 1930's. The coyright was revised in 1964 by Donna Dale Carnegie and Dorothy Carnegie. The book's copyright was last renewed in 1981 by Donna Dale Carnegie and Dorothy Carnegie once again. When you validate this selection, make sure that the copyright information on the validation page appears as follows: Copyright date: 1981 Copyright holder Donna Dale Carnegie and Dorothy Carnegie When you validate, you include the latest copyright holder and the latest copyright date as the correct information. The author and the copyright holder are not necessarily the same all the time. Often times, you will find that the copyright holder is a publisher or some corporation. In this case the copyright holders are Donna Dale Carnegie and Dorothy Carnegie. Feel free to ignore the following as its not relevant to your current selection: "HOW TO STOP WORRYING AND START LIVING Copyright 1944, 1945,1946, 1947,1948 by Dale Carnegie; copyright 1984 by Donna Dale Carnegie and Dorothy Carnegie." HTH, Pratik Pratik Patel Interim Director Office of Special Services Queens College Director CUNY Assistive Technology Services The City University of New York ppatel@xxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kaitlyn Hill Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 3:16 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Cindy' Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: How to Win Friends and Influence People Hello Cindy, Okay, Now that I have been validating for a whle here is one I haven't seen before in a book. >From the book page four. HOW TO WIN FRIENDS AND INFLUENCE PEOPLE copyright 1936 by Dale Carnegie, copyright renewed 1964 by Donna Dale Carnegie and Dorothy Carnegie, Revised Edition copyright 1981 by Donna Dale Carnegie and Dorothy Carnegie. HOW TO STOP WORRYING AND START LIVING Copyright 1944, 1945,1946, 1947,1948 by Dale Carnegie; copyright 1984 by Donna Dale Carnegie and Dorothy Carnegie AH rights reserved, no part of this work may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means, electronic or mechanical, including photocopying, recording, or any information storage and retrieval system, without permission in writing from Simon and Schuster, 1230 Avenue of the Americas, New York, New York 10020. Published by Dale Carnegie & Associates, Inc. For use in Dale Carnegie Training classes only. Not for resale. Printed in the United States of America. Dale Carnegie & Associates, Inc. 290 Motor Parkway Hauppauge, NY 11788 What does it mean? -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cindy Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 11:04 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: How to Win Friends and Influence People If you need help with it, I'll take the book when it comes and you can ask if you need anything. From what Elizabeth said, there may be some mixed-up sentences or pages you'll need help with. Cindy --- Kaitlyn Hill <Kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I took that book when I was early on and it was > rejected/kicked back because > of wrong copyright info. Yes it is two books > republished as one. > > IF no one else wants it I may be open to taking it > on again. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of E. > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 4:22 PM > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: How to Win Friends and > Influence People > > That is not the title. There are two books in oen > volume. They are How to > Stop Worrying and Start Living and How to Win > Friends and Influence People. > > I released the book. > > E. > > > At 07:18 PM 8/17/2005, you wrote: > > >If you haven't released it yet, and if the title is > >actually Dale Carnegie's Lifetime Plan for Success, > >New York, Galahad (or was it Galabad--again, I > >scribbled too fast) Books, ISBN 1578660394, I can > get > >it--probably will have it next week, and can help > you > >out as you go along validating. It seems to be > >popular, because one library has ll 4 copies out, > but > >the other one has it available, and I put in a > >request. > > > >If you've already released it, perhaps you can get > it > >back and so save your work. If you don't want to > work > >on it, let me know and I'll cancel my request. > > > >Cindy > > > > > > > >-- "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > Actually this is a volume containing both How to > Win > > > Friends and Influence > > > People and How to Stop Worrying and Start > Living. > > > It is in kes format. I > > > have found several places where someone needs to > > > print book to correct > > > lines of non-understandable characters. Also, > with > > > kes someone with k1000 > > > needs to run automatic corrections and ranked > > > spelling. I did but my work > > > will be lost when I release it back to the step > 1 > > > page. > > > > > > E. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >____________________________________________________ > >Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > >http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com