[bksvol-discuss] Re: Frustration over missed opportunities for perfection
- From: "Chela Robles" <cdrobles693@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 18:23:36 -0700
Yeah, amen brother and sisters, even though I'm having hard time
scanning Kind of Blue: The Making of the Miles Davis Masterpiece by
Ashley Kahn, which probably contains captions with those photos, it is
very tough, but I'm doin' my best, and that is all that God would want
for us, alright, so let's go about our almost end of the week, and not
worry about tomorrow for tomorrow has its own to worry about. Life
goes on! A merry heart doeth good Like medicine, Chela, AKA Chris
Botti Trumpeter
On 5/29/08, Bob <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> All I can say is "amen" Jackie. Well said.
>
> I usually agree with E concerning the dreaded stripper and in no way forgive
> it's programatic quirks. But this cathartic discussion let's me know that
> there are a lot of folks out there doing a fine job. We all have different
> tools to work with, some have k1000, some have open book, some use braille
> displays while others use speech, and some use their eyes while others use
> hearing or touch. But, as a group, frankly, we do pretty damned good putting
> out pretty fine products in our various ways.
>
> So, once again I say "amen Jackie".
>
> Oh and by the way, if I understand things correctly, smart quotes aren't
> generated by the daisy translator, they are generated by microsoft, for the
> most part. Maria has told us how to check for their presence and change them
> into normal quotes (thanks Maria for some very lucid messages).
>
> Therefore, it's just one more thing to look out for and deal with. It's not
> something to repeatedly kick ourselves for, or blame ourselves for, it's
> just another drudgery in the drudged-out world for scannors and validators.
>
> Just my way of saying "amen Jackie". Wish I'd said that.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jackie McBride" <abletec@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:08 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Frustration over missed opportunities for
> perfection
>
>
>>U know what, yall--the AA prayer really comes into its own in a
>> situation like this. From my perspective:
>> 1) I am gonna turn out the absolute best product I can.
>> 2) I am not gonna waste my time trying to 2nd guess the quirks of the
>> braille translator & the stripper & Daisy, because I cannot always
>> predict what they're gonna do & I certainly cannot change them.
>> 3) I control what I can, I leave alone what I cannot, & I always pray
>> for wisdom to know the difference. I will not waste my energy lookin
>> back over my shoulder or hopping thru life on 1 leg while kickin
>> myself in the butt w/the other.
>>
>> My view is that every1's pretty much doin' the best they can.
>> Bookshare staff has got their hands full--you'd think money would
>> solve their problems but it doesn't--it just creates different ones.
>> They're still understaffed & spendin their time tryin' to get more
>> staff, while the expectations of the Department of Education are
>> *huge*. The volunteer manual isn't perfect but it's better than what
>> we had. Of course, it might be better if there were a wiki or some
>> such, but for now... These things all take time & resources.
>>
>> So, guys, let's not get our grundies in a bundle & let's just all
>> understand that u, me, & every1 else is doing the best they can. Life
>> will never be perfect here--all we can do is our little bit to make it
>> better. & if, at the end of the day, we can say we've done that, then
>> it's been a good day indeed. & I truly believe that all of us on this
>> list can in fact say that. So easy does it, yall--it just is not worth
>> getin' upset over--life's way too short & time way too precious for
>> that. I'll crawl back in2 the woodwork now where I belong.
>>
>> On 5/29/08, Amy Goldring Tajalli <agoldringtajalli@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> E and others,
>>>
>>> Please, please, please do not mistake sighted readers/members of
>>> Bookshare
>>> with people who can read printed versions/editions of books. I can scan
>>> and
>>> validate books and do many that are ones I have sitting on my shelves but
>>>
>>> in
>>> which the print is too small for me to read or the book is too big for me
>>>
>>> to
>>> hold or manage turning the pages even if I can hold them. There are all
>>> sorts of reasons why someone cannot use standard printed material.
>>>
>>> When I finish writing this letter, I will down-size the print for the
>>> convenience of Bookshare readers and "freelist" receivers. Then
>>> Booksharians
>>> who have readers can have them at whatever size is convenient. I cannot
>>> double-check this at a smaller print as I do not have a screen reader
>>> that
>>> reads mail as I write it. The screen reader that came with my computer
>>> [Dell] reads menus & sub-menus only and not the contents of the pages.
>>> The
>>> only reader I have that reads the text is in my Kurzweil so I have to
>>> move
>>> anything I want read has to be moved to that, including the long, long
>>> letters from my sister in Cambodia. Other mail I can enlarge if it is not
>>>
>>> to
>>> long. My ability to read even enlarged material is limited by the strain
>>> of
>>> reading.
>>>
>>> I write this not for sympathy any more than members who identify
>>> themselves
>>> as blind do so for sympathy but to help all of you understand why some
>>> members of Bookshare do need and appreciate the service but also want the
>>> books to be as accurate and true to what the author wrote as possible.
>>> Even the blind can benefit from knowing what they cannot see - that there
>>> are pictures with captions and what both are even though the sighted also
>>> cannot see the pictures since Bookshare cannot reproduce pictures or
>>> sketches. It does help to know that the author felt s/he felt they
>>> would
>>> be beneficial to the readers. I wish I had read The Silmarillion before
>>> I
>>> scanned and validated The Tale of Genji or I would have done a much
>>> better
>>> and more consistent job with the drawings. Then the copy really would
>>> have
>>> been excellent.
>>>
>>> I am sorry to have gone one so long but there are sighted people who
>>> really
>>> do need Bookshare quite as much as the blind do.
>>>
>>> Amy
>>> omsm
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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