[bksvol-discuss] Re: Bud's Library Book Adventures
- From: "Monica Willyard" <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:48:28 -0400
Hi Bud. If you press enter on the name of a book, you'll go to a page where
you can see the quality, synopsis, and even who submitted the book. I think
this is something you'd be great at. (smile)
Monica Willyard
"The best way to predict the future is to create it." -- Peter Drucker
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bud Schwab
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 7:37 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bud's Library Book Adventures
Hi Monica,
That's a great idea. How would I do that, just check to see if that book
is already there and then see the rating right there by the book? I shudder
to think of the quality of the first ones I sent in several years ago.
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll just do that.
bud
At 04:22 PM 3/22/2009, you wrote:
Hi Bud. Have you thought to check on the quality rating of books in the
Bookshare collection when your library helper brings you books that are
already on Bookshare? I'm asking you about that because if the copy on
Bookshare is really messed up, you could scan a new copy and submit it with
the letters BSO at the beginning of the title. You'd be helping everyone on
Bookshare by putting a clean scan into the collection so everyone could
enjoy the book. Anything rated fair or good needs to be replaced, and some
of our older books rated excellent need to be replaced too. The scanning
technology we all had six years ago couldn't hold a candle to what we have
now. Many of us had scanners but hadn't learned how to use them well back
then. Sometimes our books were put into the collection without being checked
for scannos because the book validation process worked differently back
then. A rating of "excellent" didn't mean what it does today.
So if your library lady brings you books that are already on Bookshare,
don't get discouraged. Take it as a personal challenge instead to discover
if any of those particular books need to be scanned with your talent and
skill. And if nothing needs to be scanned, you've gotten to read some neat
books and are still doing something important to help us verify the quality
of books in the collection. You'll be Bud, our paladin of justice for books.
(smile)
Monica Willyard
"The best way to predict the future is to create it." -- Peter Drucker
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mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bud Schwab
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 6:52 PM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: where are all the submits
Hi Guys,
I think one of the reasons that the list of books for proofreading is
getting smaller is that bookshare has some 30 some thousand books
already. I have a neighbor that brings us books from the library
here in Malibu and many times all of them that she brings are already
in bookshare. Right now I have nine books to read but bookshare
already has all of them. So from my small world here that is part of
the reason. I'm always disappointed when all she brings are already
in bookshare but I just go ahead and read them fast without having to
pay attention to any errors. I'm hoping this Friday she will bring
some that I can submit.
Later.
Bud
At 03:07 PM 3/22/2009, you wrote:
>Hi Evan and Lissi. I agree that it would be helpful to have some comments
on
>these issues from Pavi. Unfortunately, since Pavi doesn't spend much time
>interacting with us, I'm not sure she can see the big picture and the
>factors contributing to it. I think Carrie can because she reads the list,
>understands our history, and sees the numbers of books involved directly.
>Because Bookshare is growing so nicely, I would be very surprised if any
>single factor is causing the lower levels of books available for
>proofreading. By the same token, I'm sure there are some factors in play
>that we on this list don't know about or understand fully.
>
>Lissi, I don't think we'll get to the point where there are no books to
work
>on because any volunteer could choose to upload a new book at any time.
>That's why I think it would help to balance things if we can put our heads
>together to encourage those volunteers who are able to start submitting
more
>books. I really value our team of proofreaders, and I'm committed to
working
>with everyone to find a solution. If we brainstorm, I'll bet we can come up
>with some ideas to get people excited and engaged again.
>
>Monica Willyard
>"The best way to predict the future is to create it." -- Peter Drucker
>
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mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of EVAN REESE
>Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 8:13 AM
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: where are all the submits
>
>Hahaha! You are right, the issue is quality, not time taken. But I would
>argue that there is a relationship between the two that is not necessarily
>one to one, but significant nonetheless. It is not a book or two, but a
>pattern involving a lot of books.
>
>What you are describing with the book you checked out is an isolated
>incident; and you certainly did more than the Jiffyproofing being talked
>about here. What I and others here are talking about is a pattern of
>checking out books and checking them back in again without any apparent
>attempt to even look at the text. They couldn't have done so in the time
>they had.
>
>Now, if the quality of all those submits was truly stellar, then that would
>be great, and no major correcting would have had to be done. But, unless
>they were all children's books, which we know they were not, how would
>anyone have been able to find out what the quality was in the kind of
>timeframes we're talking about here?
>
>Still, having said all that, the question occurs to me: Could even several
>Jiffy proofreaders, taking several books each day, be responsible for the
>drastic decline in the number of books on the Check Out page? I suppose it
>is possible, but it seems unlikely that that is the entire cause. But as
>Lissi says, we just don't know enough to do anything other than speculate
at
>
>this point.
>
>Evan
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bob" <rwiley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 12:25 AM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: where are all the submits
>
>
> > Evan should only be allowed to send messages like that after the kids
have
>
> > gone to bed. After all, we do have standards here <smile>.
> >
> > However, I still say that the problem is in the quality, not in the time
> > it takes to proofread a book. And, that's what we should be reporting to
> > bookshare.
> >
> > For example, yesterday I downloaded The Boss's Christmas Proposal by
> > Allison Leigh. Don't ask me why because I don't know--except, perhaps I
> > really wanted something to validate (I mean proof read). But it's a
> > harliquin romance, and I'm more in to Nero Wolfe.
> >
> > It started out with a 99.7 in Kurzweil, which is where most of the books
I
>
> > proofread end up. But, there were a couple of interesting problems. For
> > example, the author kind of liked the word tsk meaning "shame on you".
She
>
> > used the word tsked (past tense of tsk) three times in her book, two of
> > them were plainly correct, but one of them made no sense, and the only
way
>
> > I could make it make sense was to change tsked to asked. I also took out
> > the running titles at the tops of pages and protected chapter headings.
I
> > eventually got the message from Kurzweil that we love to hear, "your
> > document did not have any errors in it, wow! what are the chances of
> > that?" So, I sent the book back up and it's been accepted in the
> > collection. I had the book for less than twenty-four hours. And I don't
> > think I did a jiffy proofread.
> >
> > However, I must admit I didn't read the entire book, it isn't my cup of
> > tea, at all. In fact, I did read the last chapter, and I found myself
> > laughing too hard to proofread anything.
> >
> > Bob (who isn't criticizing anyone else's reading preferences)
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Julia" <julia.kulak@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:21 PM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: where are all the submits
> >
> >
> >> Oh dear, that's a scary thought.
> >> Julia
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "EVAN REESE" <mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:59 PM
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: where are all the submits
> >>
> >>
> >>> Well, if one person takes, say an average of twenty minutes per book,
> >>> then they can turn over their five books in less than two hours.
> >>>
> >>> That's just one person. If several people are doing this, then that
> >>> could add up to a lot of books per day that get taken and sent up to
the
>
> >>> admin queue.
> >>>
> >>> And that, of course, assumes that this hypothetical person only does
> >>> five books per day. If they wanted to, they could turn over quite a
few
> >>> more books than that.
> >>>
> >>> Evan
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 1:36 PM
> >>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: where are all the submits
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Since they can each only take five books, this still means very few
> >>>> fiction books are on the check in books list Roger.
> >>>>
> >>>> At 01:11 PM 3/21/2009, you wrote:
> >>>>>Nicholas Wilcox and Julie Barrett got them all.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Philosophers have merely interpreted the world in
various
>
> >>>>> ways; the point is to change it." Karl Marx
> >>>>>
> >>>>>table with 2 columns and 6 rows
> >>>>>Subj:
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> >>>>>There are so few books on check in books page these days and so few
> >>>>>of them are fiction. What is going on? So little for a proof reader
> >>>>>to do, sigh!!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>E.
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