Bill, From the photo it doesn't appear that the bill is deformed. It looks as if something is stuck to the bill. As to your second question I have seen juvenile male hummers with random red or black spots (depending on the angle of light) on the throat, but never an organized pattern as the bird in your photo. Roger Mayhorn Compton Mt ----- Original Message ----- From: wdunson@xxxxxxxxxxx [blueridgebirders] <blueridgebirders-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: Westernvancnature <westernvancnature@xxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: Blue Ridge Birders <blueridgebirders@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Buchanan Bird Club <bcbirdclub@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:16:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [blueridgebirders] Some Hummingbird questions [2 Attachments] I have some questions about this hummer I photographed at our farm today near Galax: 1. What is the deal with the bump on the upper bill? 2. Are the scattered green feathers on the throat precursors of red feathers in a juvenile male ruby throat? Bill Dunson __._,_.___View attachments on the web Posted by: wdunson@xxxxxxxxxxx Reply via web post• Reply to sender • Reply to group •Start a New Topic•Messages in this topic (1) Check out the automatic photo album with 2 photo(s) from this topic. Visit our web site at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blueridgebirders/ . To unsubscribe, email to: blueridgebirders-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx . Visit Your Group • Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___