Was it so long ago he gave that talk? Wow, time flies, seems like it has been only a couple years. "The Mars Talk", which he gave for SAC was a stand-out for sure, most informative and entertaining. He traveled all the way up from Sierra Vista. I remember I was Treasurer, and he became very flustered when I tried to give him his 'Honorarium' check after the talk. After some confused discussion, we finally decided he would accept the check only on the understanding it would be entirely donated to the International Dark Sky Assoc. Jack Jennifer Polakis wrote: > I first met him early 1999 when he did a talk to SAC about > Mars -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.