Bob here, out in California ... You-all in Arizona can blame me for snow and ass't other non-photometric conditions. I bought some hilltop astronomy property southwest of Ash Fork in August. I've visited several times. Mostly a lot of wet. I was there much of the monsoon. I was there for the big rains in early October and the tornadoes west of Flagstaff. I was there for the two days of "snow drizzle" circa 16 December. You get the picture -- this is like new-telescope weather but with land. Bob Ayers, San Jose CA and sometimes Ash Fork AZ -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.