> Fact Check please. I guess this depends on exactly where they were located when describing the event. Here's a link to a picture (not mine) of the ascent taken from Gainesville, about 100 miles north of the launch pad. http://www.pbase.com/image/80198378 I think it would be possible to see Venus and the exhaust plume from this location. Sam Tucson -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.