> So, let's be creative here. The backup light problems were happening at the north end of the field nearest the entrance, so we know that those who wanted to leave early were obeying the "where to park" rule, but not the "no white light" rule. They are giving warning, but not sufficient warning. It may not be ignorance, it could be a psychological thing: either they either think everyone knows they are leaving, are lax, or maybe they feel self-conscious yelling. We could make a drill a regular fun thing. At twilight, the host could possibly give an "OK everybody listen up for a sec" notice on a bullhorn, stating the rule and then saying OK, everybody yell "White Light!" (feeble response) OK let's try it again: "White Light!", (got a little louder response). I couldn't hear you, one more time: "WHITE LIGHT!" (all are yelling it loud). Much better, thank you and good observing! I think it would be fun to hear the responses, and promote esprit de corps, don't you think? Even if oldies laughed, at least newbies would sure get the point, and know it was OK to be "Loud When Leaving". Anyone coming after that would need to be specifically told of the rule. If it then worked, you would know that it was worth doing. Jack Jones --- This message is from the AZ-Observing mailing list. If you wish to be removed from this list, send E-mail to: AZ-Observing-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, with the subject: unsubscribe. The list's archive is at: //www.freelists.org/archives/az-observing This is a discussion list. Please send personal inquiries directly to the message author. In other words, do not use "reply" for personal messages. Thanks.