Andrew, You could always come over to my place and we can bask in the air conditioning in my home machine shop and make telescope parts for future usage.... :<) I have spent several days and nights out on that part of the desert in the june-august time period and don't care to try again unless it is absolutely clear, something it likely is NOT going to be. Beevo (aka Bill VanOrden) -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.