Funny you mention the "neighbor's patio lights", that seems to be my present problem after I moved in here a month ago. I haven't met the neighbors, who moved in the same time as me, on that side yet and have only seen them once since I moved in. They must have a dusk-to-dawn on their back porch light, because it consistently shines over the wall onto my house eaves and trees all night every night and is one of those cheap glass jar types. My plan of attack is to meet them, when that ever happens, and then ask how they are doing, and hope they ask how I'm doing. At that point I can say fine, but your back porch light really glares. Then I can find out why they feel it has to be on all the time. They may then offer to leave it off. If not, I'll have to offer a solution, such as saying there is a kind of porchlight that will flood their backyard with light but doesn't light up the sky, and then buying them a Glarebuster and installing it for them. Ace Hardware has them for $75. I just hope they are reasonable. Jack Jones Public Events Saguaro Astronomy Club Phoenix AZ Telescoper@xxxxxxx www.saguaroastro.org > arrive on Wednesday, I can only say that it just was not meant to be. If > it isn't the weather or the moon or even the neighbor's patio lights, > fate will get you (or me) every time. I did try to get some meaningful > observations thru the heat waves coming off the roofs of the houses > around me while my wife applied more Benzedrine on my bites I received > at Flat Iron. I retreated to the lounge chair in the middle of the lawn > Andrew Goodwin -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.