All right folks; Maybe we are coming at this thing from the wrong angle. Let's try a positive mental attitude and see what happens. I just got up for a few moments and stepped outside before the dawn and it is nice and clear. The Moon is next to Spica, Jupiter is overhead and there is not a cloud in the sky. So, Jack order up the porta potty. I'll put my battery on charge. Everyone clean their eyepieces and let's go observing:)) See you at Sentinel; Steve Coe Author "Deep Sky Observing--The Astronomical Tourist" Saguaro Astronomy Club website www.saguaroastro.org -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.