Neat article in the Aug 2003 S&T by Bill Ferris about Aperture vs. Dark Sky. I'm going to check all those test galaxies on our sites. I agree with the conclusion and always felt small scopes especially were truly transformed by a good dark sky site. Nobody ever explained to me properly I guess just what exactly is a square arcsecond of light? Magnitudes per square arcsecond (MPSA) eludes me as a measurement of darkness. Why is the surface brightness of light polluted sky at 18th magnitude. How far can it go? What's daytime, what's the limit? Stuff like that. Jack Jones Saguaro Astronomy Club Public Events Coordinator Phoenix AZ spicastar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.