I have been doing photometry on VV Cep for the last few months trying to catch the secondary eclipse of this binary system. The best place to do photometry is where the star is close to the meridian. I just came back in from trying as VV Cep is approaching the meridian. It seems someone has decided to hire a light show just north of me on Camelback. Four multimillion candlepower lights are now randomly sweeping back and forth across the sky exactly where VV Cep lies. It totally baffles me why there is concern about green laser pointers when something like this is allowed. Does anyone know how we can get these light shows banned? It just makes me sick as it is a beautiful night. These lights cover the whole northern hemisphere from my location. Here's hoping they burn out! Jeff -- Jeff Hopkins HPO SOFT http://www.hposoft.com/Astro/astro.html Hopkins Phoenix Observatory 7812 West Clayton Drive Phoenix, Arizona 85033-2439 U.S.A. www.hposoft.com -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.