Brent, Thanks for the visual description - much appreciated. I tried to see the shuttle from south Phoenix (Tempe), but my northern horizon was way too high (houses, trees, etc.) so missed any possibility of a sighting. Also, thanks for the words to "Hail, Columbia" - I had forgotten about that song altogether. /Bob -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.