Dear Craig (Hadden), In my experience (across Word versions) I beg to differ. Where a Word macro has been looking for something named something that changes to something else in another version, it all falls over. I have seen it happen. I have seen others have it happen. I neither pretend nor want to be a Visual BASIC programmer. I record Macros, I test them, I edit them and I optimize them as needed. When they fail between Word versions, I take a reasonably well informed peek at the code and look at what has brought the macros unstuck. In some cases, I might not be 100% correct (for everyone) but I can only relate my experiences. One of the fascinating (and often frustrating) things about Word is that few people use it the same way and almost everyone has different experiences with it, depending on legacy documents in use, the installed flavour / service pack and upgrade or full install of Windows and Word and even the file name. (Did you know that Word can make a VB macro-proof document through its dodgy long file name support including illegal characters in a file name, when it automatically captures, suggests and saves the first line of text or the first document properties field as a file name? I've seen it happen to another writer.) You've had your experiences with the product and I have had mine (about 14 years of them, since the 5.1 blue screen version for MS-DOS). How about you say, "in my experienced this has not happened", rather than presuming to tell us that nobody else could possibly experience such things. In the infinitely variable world that is working with software, unexpected and even seemingly inexplicable things can and do happen. I was simply relating those that have, to me in the real world, in an effort to assist a colleague. What happens in the real world versus the ideal (how it should work) world, differ more often than they concur. Please give me some credit for talking from experience rather than shooting from the hip. Cheers, Michael Granat Write Ideas At 16:48 4/2/2004, you wrote: >Michael wrote: > > almost any macro ...that depends on its options being in a > > set [menu] location (as do most macros) is going to fall over... > >Actually, Word macros DON'T depend on the menu structure (or on keyboard >menu shortcuts). > >(Just in case some impressionable readers believed otherwise.) > >Regards, >Craig ************************************************** To post a message to austechwriter, send the message to austechwriter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe to austechwriter, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject field. To unsubscribe, send a message to austechwriter-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject field. To search the austechwriter archives, go to www.freelists.org/archives/austechwriter To contact the list administrator, send a message to austechwriter-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxx **************************************************