A trick I’ve learned out of necessity is once a mono track is recorded,
duplicate it. Pan each of them left and right then mix them. My audio interface
or the laptop was not recording unless Audacity was set to mono. This was my
work-around.
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From: audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Behalf Of Steve the Fiddle
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 8:52 AM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Editting
If you are recording instruments with a single mic, then there is really no
benefit in recording as stereo unless you intend to add stereo effects to
individual instruments. Note that even with mono tracks, you can pan the tracks
left / right in the mix.
When recording a typical 3, 4, 5 piece band, I usually record instruments and
lead vocals in mono. For drum kit, I generally record kick and snare in mono,
and use a stereo pair to record the kit as a whole (which picks up the toms and
cymbals). If there are backing vocals, I may record them with a stereo pair.
This is just a "typical" setup, which may be varied according to need.
Steve
On Sun, 5 Apr 2020 at 11:24, Adrian <ado58@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:ado58@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Thanks again Andrew.
Yeah, have a dark chocolate easter egg which goes well with port.
Thanks again .
Adrian
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Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Editting
Hi Adrian
Re mono or stereo tracks, from my very musically incompetent perspective it
probably depends on the instrument to some extent. I would be tempted to leave
most at stereo. You can always make it mono later if the need arises. I guess
you save some disk space with mono, if that is an issue.
Must be getting on time for another of those ports 😊.
Andrew
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<mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > On Behalf Of Adrian
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Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Editting
Hi Marlon,
Thank you so much for this.
I cannot believe how helpful everyone is.
I am starting a new project today so I will try everything from scratch.
Do you recommend using mono or stereo tracks to record individual instruments?
Thanks you again.
Adrian
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[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marlon Brandão de ;
Sousa
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To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Adrian
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Editting
Sorry, where you encounter c key please consider x key.
On 04/04/2020 19:16, Marlon Brandão de Sousa wrote:
Here is what I can say:
1- Remember always that audacity is multi track. This is obvious but my
experience says that it is as easier to forget as it is to remember.
2- Because it is multi track, tracks can be selected or not. The track
selection has nothing to do with time range selections, these are two different
things.
3- Selected tracks are affected by whatever you want to do. Applying effects,
cutting, stuff that affect sounds will affect only selected tracks.
4- If more tan one track is selected, more than one track will be affected by
operations.
5- The time range is absolute, it does not depend on tracks. It starts in 0 and
go until the end of the very last track to finish.
6- To start a selection, use the [ key. If sound is playing, this marks the
time range where the selection begins. Similarly, use the ] key to determine
the end of the selection, in terms of time range.
6.1- When you are playing a sound, the time range advances accordingly with
what you are listening. This is why when you press [ to mark the start of the
selection and ] to mark the end of the selection these markers are fixed on the
time range corresponding to the exact moments you pressed that keys and audio
keeps playing.
7- The selection goes from start time to end time and all selected tracks that
have content within the selection range will be affected by whatever operation
is done to that selection. Tracks that have content within the time range but
that are not selected are not affected. Tracks that either finished before the
start mark or start after the end mark are not affected, regardless of its
selection state.
8- As you probably guess as of now, tracks can begin and end at positions
different than 0 and the last time range. They can start at any moment in the
time range. The full time range goes from 0 to the end of the last track, the
one that finishes the last.
9- The cursor runs through the absolute time range. There are commands to put
it at 0 (home), at the end of the last track in terms of time range (end), to
the begin of a given track (j), at the end of a given track (k) and at a given
moment you happen to be listening to (c)
10 Take care with j and k keys. These will put the cursor at the beginning and
the end of a given track, but if there are more than one selected track, they
will put you at the beginning of the track that, among the selected tracks,
begins first in the absolute time range. Similarly, the k key will put the
cursor at the end of the track that finishes last among the selected tracks.
11- There are effects and other stuff in audacity that use the cursor position.
You have to learn what are these and you have to learn when a cursor positioned
somewhere is or is not important. The command shift + r for example will start
recording a new track from the cursor position on, which is the start of the
new track will be the absolute time range where the cursor is positioned. The c
command is your best friend to place the cursor exactly where you are listening
at a given moment.
12- The play operation does not advance the cursor through the time range while
it is playing. This is why when you hit stop and play again it will start
playing always from the same place. Neither does the record operation.
13- When you place a start selection (time range selection) marker, then the
cursor is brought to that time range.
14- My experience says that for us, blind people, it is not easy to have an
overview of what tracks are and are not selected. This, by my experience, is
what usually trips us more. If you forget to let only one track selected when
you cut, delete or apply effects, very strange things will start happening.
Specially on cut stuff, more than one piece of audio (not just that one you
wanted) will be removed and pasted elsewhere, which will let the project a mess.
15- There is a command called unsellect all. It was once bound to ctrl + shift
+ a, but it seems that it is no more. I have found that this command is
extremely valuable because it will make sure that no time range is selected and
that all tracks are also not selected. So I always perform an unsellect all
when I will edit something and then start selecting tracks and time ranges
where I will make operations. This has helped me a lot and since I started to
use it my mysterious errors have dramatically disappeared.
Hope that helps!
Marlon
On 04/04/2020 07:57, Adrian wrote:
Hi again.
Yes, it’s the pest.
Can you please suggest the best way of selecting a portion of the track I want
to edit.
I have tried the options in the Select/Region submenu but I never seem to get
it right.
Many thanks.
Adrian
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[mailto:audacity4blind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew Downie
Sent: Saturday, 4 April 2020 8:06 PM
To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Editting
Hi again Adrian
Thanks Robert for refining my process. But before following my drawn out
process, here is another option which I should have thought of at the time.
There is a wonderful plugin for Audacity called Panramp. It allows a selection
to be panned and that can be moving from – say – left to right or being set in
one position. By using Panramp, everything can be done on one track.
Here is a download link <https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/idvk27> for
panramp.ny. Put in into your C:\Users\[Adrian?]
\AppData\Roaming\audacity\Plug-Ins folder. Before you can use it, select
add/remove plugins in the Effects Menu and press p until you find it.
Shift-tab until you find the Enable button and select it.
That plugin has made a huge difference for my use of Audacity and should be
very useful for music creation.
Andrew
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Sent: Saturday, 4 April 2020 4:40 PM
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Subject: [audacity4blind] Editting
Hi,
I recorded a guitar solo on a track & now I want to use panning on parts of it.
For example, I want the intro on the left & the verse on the right & then the
chorus in the centre.
I think I have to do some cutting & pasting from the main track to a new track
but I have spent the best part of a week trying everything but I’m struggling.
When I have managed to select the right part & cut & paste, nothing is where it
should be.
I checked youtube but most of it is visual & that isn’t good for me..
Any help is appreciated.
Adrian