[audacity4blind] Re: Accessibility of compressor - was Re: Disk space
- From: Gale Andrews <gale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 19:06:11 +0100
| From David Bailes <david_bailes@xxxxxxxxxxx>
| Wed, 10 Apr 2013 16:21:37 +0100 (BST)
| Subject: Accessibility of compressor - was Re: Disk space
> Hi Cuong,
> thanks for letting me know the version.
> I tried it out, and it has the problem that I mentioned:
> - if you change a slider jaws reads a percentage
> - if you tab to a slider, it reads out the value, for example 2:1, and then a
> percentage.
> - if you change a slider and press insert+up arrow to read the slider it
> reads the wrong value, and the percentage. If you tab away and then back it
> reads the correct value.
>
> In fact it looks like the intention was to put this funtionality into the
> current compressor dialog, but there are some 'mistakes' in the code which
> means that it isn't there.
> However, given that Jaws misreads the value when you press insert+up arrow, I
> don't think it would be helpful to fix this code.
> As I said before, I think that the best fix would be to have and edit box and
> a slider for each setting.
I added "edit boxes" to the list of interface enhancements we
may make to Compressor some time:
http://bugzilla.audacityteam.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153 .
Have you tried Chris's Dynamic Compressor:
http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Compressor#alternative
It has edit boxes and is a more "standard" compressor than
Audacity's.
Gale
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dang Manh Cuong <dangmanhcuong@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc:
> Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2013, 15:29
> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Accessibility of compressor - was Re: Disk space
>
> Hi David
> I Tried this version
> http://www.jaws-users.com/programs/Audio/Audacity_Portable_1.2.6_R2.paf.exe
> Thanks for replying.
> Cuong.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Bailes" <david_bailes@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 9:05 PM
> Subject: [audacity4blind] Accessibility of compressor - was Re: Disk space
>
>
> Hi Cuong,
> I've had a look at the code for the compressor, and can't see what has
> changed that would effect how Jaws reads the sliders in the compressor
> dialog. Do you know the exact version number where the slider was read better?
> Most of the effects have both an edit box and a slider of setting each
> parameter, and this would probably be the best fix to make this dialog
> accessible.
> Unfortunately Jaws isn't very good at reading sliders. It would be possible
> to create a slider where nvda would would read out the ratio when you changed
> the setting of the slider, but Jaws would just read a percentage. The best
> I've been able to achieve is for Jaws to read out the ratio and the
> percentage when you press insert+up arrow, but even then it reads the value
> of the ratio for the state of the slider before the last adjustment and not
> after, so it reads the wrong value.
> So an edit box and a slider is probably the way to go.
>
> David.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dang Manh Cuong <dangmanhcuong@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday, 8 April 2013, 3:27
> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Disk space
>
> Hi Gale and listers
> When read e mails about geting disk space innfo, I remember one thing
> related to the accissibility feature.
> When I try an erlier version of Audacity might be 1.3) with the compressor,
> Jaws read the slider bar better than current version. For example, when I
> adjust the ratio to 76%, Jaws read: 8:1 76%. I think it good and need to be
> fixed in the next version because most of tutorial I've read, writer usually
> talk about ratio, not percent.
> Thanks for reading, and sorry for my English.
> Cuong.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gale Andrews" <gale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 4:04 AM
> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Disk space
>
>
> >
> > The Status Bar messages that appear are relevant to what you
> > are doing at the time. So when you first start Audacity, the
> > Status Bar has the welcome message and version number that
> > Sandra mentioned.
> >
> > You have to start an Audacity recording before the Status Bar
> > shows the message about disk space remaining time. You will
> > need to wait a few seconds after recording starts before the
> > message appears. Or just press R to record and SPACE to stop
> > recording then the message will appear after you press SPACE.
> >
> > There is a warning on launch of Audacity when you have 100 MB
> > or less space in the temporary folder. But 100 MB is only about
> > five minutes of recording time for stereo recording in 32-bit
> > float.
> >
> > If you are recording and run out of disk space, unfortunately
> > there is no warning. Audacity will start corrupting the existing
> > recording when it has no more space. It is yet another thing
> > that is on the list to be fixed.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gale
> >
> >
> > | From Aidan Maher <aidan.smarttalk@xxxxxxxxx>
> > | Sun, 7 Apr 2013 16:42:42 +0200
> > | Subject: Disk space
> >> Yes that is weerd that it does that. But what I do no that unless if
> >> you switched it off under settings, there is a setting wich allow to
> >> warn you when the space on your harddrive becomes low.
> >>
> >> On 07/04/2013, Sandra Gayer <sandragayer7@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > Hello Gale,
> >> > I use Jaws 13 and I have a Windows 7 operating system. I tried insert
> >> > plus page down while in Audacity and it just gave me a welcome message
> >> > as well as the version of Audicity I have. I would love to know how
> >> > much recording space I have too, without things getting to the point
> >> > when the warning tells me there isn't any left unless I delete
> >> > something fast, he he!
> >> >
> >> > Very best wishes,
> >> > Sandra.
> >> >
> >> > On 4/5/13, Gale Andrews <gale@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> | From "Ron" <facup1927@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> | Fri, 5 Apr 2013 13:48:49 +0100
> >> >> | Subject: [audacity4blind] Disk space
> >> >>> Is there any way I can check how much space I have for recording
> >> >>> before
> >> >>> I
> >> >>> start a new project?
> >> >>
> >> >> Sighted users see "Disk space remains for recording" and a
> >> >> time remaining based on that disk space in the Status Bar at
> >> >> the bottom. You will have to read the Help for your screen
> >> >> reader to see if it can read the Status Bar. According to
> >> >> David's JAWS guide, INSERT + PAGE DOWN reads the Status
> >> >> Bar in JAWS.
> >> >>
> >> >> Otherwise, Directories Preferences gives the disk space remaining
> >> >> for the drive on which the Audacity temporary directory resides,
> >> >> but you may not be able to read the space value. INSERT + B in
> >> >> NVDA starts reading out all the toolbars (?) even though focus is
> >> >> on Preferences.
> >> >>
> >> >> If necessary you could find out where the Audacity temporary
> >> >> directory is from Directories Preferences then find some way in
> >> >> your operating system to read out the space on that drive.
> >> >>
> >> >> If you need help please say what operating system you are
> >> >> using and which screen reader.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Gale
> >> >>
> >> > --
> >> > Soprano Singer
> >> > www.sandragayer.com
> >> >
> >> > Broadcast Presenter
> >> >
> >> > www.insightradio.co.uk/music-box.html
> >> >
> >
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