[asflanet] Re: stratified model of context question

  • From: "David Rose" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ("david.rose")
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  • Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 04:00:14 +0000

This matrix from a talk MAKH gave to computer scientists in 95 may help to 
flesh out the SFL timeline a little. It is based on ideas he first proposed in 
1961. Subsequent research was overwhelmingly in the bottom row – on LG systems. 
Cells above that are proposals for research. He comments “Semantic 
representations of the instance — the instance as meaning — are still quite 
unsatisfactory, and there is much work to be done in this respect. Likewise for 
the instantial situation: we tend to work with informal word-pictures, like the 
stage directions in the printed edition of a play; but the basic concept of 
situation as instance has advanced very little in recent decades” (2005:255).
The upper and middle left-hand cells were the focus of Jim Martin and 
colleagues’ research through the 80s, culminating in English Text in 92. 
Metafunctional semantic systems were described as discourse semantics. Systems 
were also described for ‘potential clusterings of values of field, tenor, 
mode’, that were named genre systems. Appliability was one motivation for 
prioritising genre systems. Systems were proposed for field, tenor, mode, but 
it took another two decades for this research to be taken up in earnest, 
starting with Jing Hao on field, followed by a series of studies, culminating 
in Doran, Martin, Herrington 2023 (and Yaegan’s recent course at Usyd).
A crucial advance in this research is description of field, tenor, mode systems 
as semiotic systems that are instantiated, not by ‘informal word-pictures’, but 
by ‘selection expressions’, as the matrix specifies for LG and semantic systems.
Another major step forward is the reconstrual of what MAKH calls ‘values’ in 
the top row as ‘principles’ of instantiation, and ‘domains’ of individuation. 
This potentially integrates research using different SFL models into a 
commensurate whole.
It also helps resolve an anomaly in the upper right-hand cell, in which 
instances of socio-semiotic systems are named ‘particular social semiotic 
situation events’, whereas instances of LG and semantic systems are simply 
named ‘particular texts’. A social semiotic event is of course a (multimodal) 
text.
David

[strat 2]
"The left-hand upper cell is taken up with contextual networks: it contains a 
theory of the possible semiotic situations that collectively constitute a 
culture – taxonomies of institutions and of doings and happenings, manifested 
as possible clusterings of values of field, tenor and mode.” Hallliday 2005: 255


From: David Rose <david.rose@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, 20 March 2024 at 8:48 pm
To: asflanet@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <asflanet@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [asflanet] Re: stratified model of context question
In both 1961 and 92 models, context is realised by language (and other 
modalities), and language systems are  instantiated as text. In the 92 model, 
context is described as semiotic systems that are also instantiated as text 
(rather than as ‘settings’ in situations). Doran, Martin, Herrington supply the 
2024 update. The next is due around 2055 (if man is still alive, if woman can 
survive... ;(
David

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Date: Wednesday, 20 March 2024 at 6:11 pm
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Subject: [asflanet] Re: stratified model of context question
Here's another example of the self-contradiction of
systems of non-language (the contextual strata of genre and register)
being instantiated as language (text):

[cid:ii_ltzgm5so2]



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On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 at 16:19, David Rose 
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Doh, now I get it
The slippage is between 1961 and 92 models of lg and context
61...
Lg described as semiotic systems instantiated as text (after Saussure, Firth)
Context modelled as culture instantiated as situation (after Malinowski)
Situation modelled as instantial categories of field, tenor, mode (not 
described as semiotic systems)
92...
Context modelled as semiotic systems instantiated as text (after Hjelmslev)
Text instantiates systems at all strata (no ‘situation’ outside of semiosis)
Doran, Martin, Herrington describe field, tenor, mode systems as ‘resources’
Earlier classification model incorporated as ‘principles’ of instantiation
David

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Up until this recently published paper,
the 'gotcha friendly soundbite' has been 'text'.


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On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 at 10:28, David Rose 
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Not easy to describe realisation and instantiation together in a gotcha 
friendly soundbite...
Genre configures recurrent dynamic couplings of selections in field, tenor, 
mode systems. Cultures assign names to these recurrent configurations...story, 
conversation, argument, ceremony... SFL names them as features in system 
networks. Named features generalise recurrent instances. Features in field, 
tenor, mode systems are of a different order...item, activity, property; 
tender, render...
David

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Fair enough! 😊

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On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 at 09:53, Yaegan Doran 
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
What name would you propose for an instance of field, tenor and mode, in a 
model that also includes genre?

Yaegan



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So it's not a text, but you don't have a name for it?


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On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 at 09:47, Yaegan Doran 
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
If we are taking register as the cover term for field, tenor and mode, then an 
instance of register is just an instance of choices from field, tenor and mode. 
And same for genre.

Yaegan

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So what is an instance of register (and of genre) in this paper?


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On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 at 09:34, Yaegan Doran 
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Chris,

Just clarifying – the paper that David linked has suggested that in relation to 
the terminological confusion you raise, we can draw on the terms ‘register’ and 
‘diatype’ (the latter from Gregory 1967) for the concepts you note. In the 
paper, we use register as a cover term for field, tenor and mode, and diatype 
as the term for the skewing of probabilities of language that arise in relation 
to choices in field, tenor and mode.

So, although this terminology differs somewhat from Halliday’s, what you have 
proposed is not the case for the paper that David linked.

Yaegan

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Is it true that, in the stratified model of context,
as potential, register and genre are context not language
but as instance, register and genre are language (text) not context?

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