Martin, well while we're on a roll... Would it be possible to have the colour bar as a magnetic lock on to the info bar as too often on a WS monitor I find I have to shrink the window in order to get to it. (I just know your going to tell ne to put it in a desired position and save choices). However I have never found a use for it to be seperate from the info bar. could be done in utils menu> attach to bottom of menu bar Also can the no fill be fixed in its position as it is probably the most used and would not need to slide back and forth for its access regards Nick K -- ------------------------------------------------------------ To change, suspend or cancel your subscription go to //www.freelists.org/list/artworks ------------------------------------------------------------