In message <896691354e.Chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Chris Terran <chris.terranova@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Can anyone explain why the large numbers don't appear when the following > file is exported as a PDF? > > http://www.roast.iconbar.com/misc/sun.zip [8K archive] > > They only appear if "Export text as shapes" is ticked, which I'd rather > not do. "[Embed] Even standard fonts" doesn't help -- the font is > Homerton.Medium, which I think should map to Helvetica. I have finally had a closer look at this problem. PDF export itself is working correctly, but the document is in an invalid state. The large numbers have a black line colour applied. This normally means that the text object holds internal path copies of the characters because the FontManager cannot render text with a coloured outline, so the text is rendered as shapes. The text objects in the file do not have any associated path outlines, so they behave as if no line colour had been applied. So, the object is in an inbetween state between not having a line colour and having a line colour. Most likely, you did not apply a line colour to the text, i.e., you did want the line colour to be "none", which is supported by the state the rest of the text object is in. It seems that the applied line colour was changed from "None" to Black by a bug when you created the group. If I ungroup, apply line colour "None" to the text object and regroup, I end up with the file as it ought to be, and it exports to PDF correctly. I am about to release a bug-fix update for various issues raised recently and I might be able to fix PDF export so it copes with such abnormal text objects. It will be more difficult to find out what triggered the spontaneous line colour change. Martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Wuerthner MW Software lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ---------------------------------------------------------------------